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Rheo
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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Hugo is 15 in Suikoden 2.
But as I have said in another topic, age in Suikoden world is calculated different than the our current western world.
In the Suikoden world, people are 1 years old the day when they are born.
So Hugo is 15 years old in the Suikoden world, but he is 14 years old in our world (in our world, we count the first year as age 0)
This is the old Chinese way to count age. (Some Koreans do that too) _________________
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 6:47 am Post subject: |
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It's 16 no? So it's probably 16. Or 15. I thought it was 16. I could be trippin. |
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Hugo is born in IS 461
The Dunan War starts at the year IS 460, the war itself takes about a year.
So Hugo is born after the war.
The problem is, we dont know the exact months, so its hard to calculate when exactly did Lucia got pregnant. We dont know if Hugo is born in December or January. It could be anywhere during the year of IS 460. It could be before Lucia went to Highland, during the war, or after she went back to Grassland. _________________
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Rheo wrote: |
Hugo is born in IS 461
The Dunan War starts at the year IS 460, the war itself takes about a year.
So Hugo is born after the war.
The problem is, we dont know the exact months, so its hard to calculate when exactly did Lucia got pregnant. We dont know if Hugo is born in December or January. It could be anywhere during the year of IS 460. It could be before Lucia went to Highland, during the war, or after she went back to Grassland. |
That's true, there is a possibility that it wasn't even a member of the Highland army. Perhaps it was a traveller, or even a citizen of Highland. Perhaps neither and it was someone from the grasslands or somewhere else. All we know is black hair that could of been with Lucia at the time. _________________
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Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 8:44 am Post subject: |
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It is even known how long a Suikoden year lasts, or how long a woman is pregnant for? |
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Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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There's also the possiblity of Hugo being born premature. _________________
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About Hugo's dad, we will not be sure about who he is, until we point a few things about Hugo himself. Therefore, we can be sure about the identity of this mysterious man.
Before I write anything, I just want to say that I might be wrong about these things.
The pointers:
- The first thing that everyone noticed is the color of Hugo's hair, which is blonde with black on the ends. Since there is no male person in Karaya with a similar hair, it gets obvious that his father is from somewhere else.
- In addition, there is the issue of the color of his eyes, I might be wrong but I do not think that the color of Hugo's eyes is the same as other Karayans, but if I am right, that could mean something.
- We also should not forget about his bad temper, although I do not think that it is a big deal since Karaya is a warrior village, but as warriors they do know how to control there temper but in Hugo's case it is an uncontrollable matter.
After evrey thing that I wrote, I do not think that his father is someone that we have seen in the suikoden series or someone from karaya.
Something else:
Since we all know that Lucia was pregnant with Hugo during the unification war and gave birth to him at the end of the war, it makes no sense to let us think that the father should be one of the old characters.
In addition to that, she was always following Jowy everywhere as a bodygaurd, so I do not think that she had the time to do it with anyone.The thing that I am sure about is that Hugo is a fruit of great love between Lucia and Hugo's dad, I know that you all are wandering about what makes me so sure about it, let me tell you. I am sure because when Lucia talked about Hugo's father, she made the impression of how she admire his honesty and how she is proud of him. This means that she knew him for a long time, and in my opinion that only happens when a person is very close to you.
It also prove that my theory about his father not being one of the old characters is true, since they were in a time of war and there is no time to waste in these kind of things. _________________
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Njord wrote: |
The pointers:
- The first thing that everyone noticed is the color of Hugo's hair, which is blonde with black on the ends. Since there is no male person in Karaya with a similar hair, it gets obvious that his father is from somewhere else.
- In addition, there is the issue of the color of his eyes, I might be wrong but I do not think that the color of Hugo's eyes is the same as other Karayans, but if I am right, that could mean something.
- We also should not forget about his bad temper, although I do not think that it is a big deal since Karaya is a warrior village, but as warriors they do know how to control there temper but in Hugo's case it is an uncontrollable matter. |
1. It has been stated that the black part of Hugo's hair comes from his father, so the blonde part probably comes from Lucia. So Hugo's father is just a black hair person.
2. It could be. Or it could be because he is the main character and so he had a unique design.
3. He is a teenager. A lot of teenage boys are impulsive. And Karayans give me an impression of being hot headed. Beecham has snapped at the Zexens, Lulu rushed to attack Chris, Aila attacked Borus in the middle of VDZ. Hugo really isnt that bad.
Njord wrote: |
Something else:
Since we all know that Lucia was pregnant with Hugo during the unification war and gave birth to him at the end of the war, it makes no sense to let us think that the father should be one of the old characters. |
Actually, we dont. read my previous post.
We dont know the exact month of Hugo's birthday. We only know he is born in IS 461. It could be anyway in IS 460 from Jan to Dec. The Dunan war itself begins in IS 460 and takes about a year. Lucia could have gotten pregnant before the war, during the war, or even after the war.
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The thing that I am sure about is that Hugo is a fruit of great love between Lucia and Hugo's dad, I know that you all are wandering about what makes me so sure about it, let me tell you. I am sure because when Lucia talked about Hugo's father, she made the impression of how she admire his honesty and how she is proud of him. This means that she knew him for a long time, and in my opinion that only happens when a person is very close to you. |
Yes Lucia does seem to be fond of Hugo's father.
But that doesnt nessary means she has known him for a long time.
She doesnt know Jowy for very long, but she is very loyal to him.
Sometimes, you dont need to know a person for several years to know who they are.
About the not having time for this kind of stuff, you will be surprised.
After all, sometimes you do fall in love without being actively looking for it. _________________
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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Another hint of Hugo's father?
*spoilers*
If Chris is not the FC Lucia will whiper in her ear that it's difficult to be a strong woman in front of everybody but if she wants to have child of her own she must show weakness sometimes, or something like that. It's a very funny scene.
So we can suppose the man is one who has seen her in battlefield??? And admired her... thought that she were unreacheable but... |
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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This is something that i said on the subject on a differant one.
Personally I believe that Sydonia is the father, he flat out dissapeared after the forming of the toran republic so he could have been walking around the dunan area while lucia would have been present. he uses a dagger like Hugo although he trows it instead of up front fights with it tho. When he sets his mind to something he wont turn back from it which could describe that someone she knows. He has the black hair and even some blonde hair like that of hugo. Also has the deep piercing eyes which are a perfect match for Hugo 's eyes. Also he maybe a quiet man but hes kind and hes incredibly loyal like she describes Hugos father Because he wouldnt abandon Varkas even though he could have easily gotten away himself not only that he saved Varkas's life before the irst suikoden and even made varkas head of the bandits. And he also told varkas that he would return if he ever needed him. the only flaws in this are there is no proof that he was in the area only the possibilty and that Hugo cant short space teleport like Sydonia, but the teleporting thing isnt known if it is hereditary or a taught skill. _________________ Strength and speed are nothing. Skill and technique that is how you win a battle. |
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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I'm Hugo's dad. and you're all my bitches. |
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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maybe he'll be a TRB in Suikoden 4, and well meet mr. daddy eh?
the two of them just had a "one time visit" because they may never meat (don't ask, I know its spelt meet) again so she needed somthing to rerember him by.
it works for Bad fic writing. _________________ few runes short of a set of 27
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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I always thought Yuber was Hugo's father mostly because of what Yuber said to Hugo before thier duel about not caring who his parents are if he's weak. As for the black hair that could tie into Yuber & Pesmerga relation. |
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 8:29 am Post subject: |
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I think it's...MIKLOTOV!!!
1: Miklotov has Black hair, duh
2: Some would say he's a kind man.
3: Lucia headed back to Harmonia or wherever she came from via Matilda, After the war.
4: Lucia would be very PO while heading back home, and Miklotov always feels sorry for poor saps he meets and tries to help them. If they met, well.. Boom chica wow wah.
5: He's a dirty dirty slut.
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 11:04 am Post subject: |
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It's Sydonia, case closed ;D. _________________ Do not despise the snake for having no horns, for who is to say it will not become a dragon?
So may one just man become an army... |
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