Shepcesska - The King of Ancient Armes?

[Archy]

Somehow, I have this feeling that that thing you fought when recruiting Eresh is actually the former emperor of the Ancient Armes Dynasty. I mean, he's insanely powerful, when you first see him he comes from something below him (I think it is a throne), he looks kinda royallish. So it is also possible that the Ruins where we recruit Jeane and Eresh was actually the main palace of Ancient Armes itself.

I don't know if it has been said in-game, but also I get the vibe that Eresh is actually an from Old Armes as well. It may be possible that she and Jeane had some way of preserving their bodies to the point of agelessness.

Anyways, what do you guys say?
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[John Layfield]

The ruins are indeed the old capital of the Ancient Armes Dynasty.

But, you know me, I'm not going to be remotely interested in the theory without some sort of actual evidence. So, yeah, nice idea but we'll see how it goes.
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[Vextor]

It's also interesting to note that the "Temple" is structured exactly like a Mastaba, which is an old type of tomb used for Pharaohs during the "old kingdom" phase of Egypt. Pharaoh Shepseskaf (probably the source of "Shepcesska") was the last Pharaoh to make this type of tomb (although that was despite the fact that was in charge of building his father's pyramid--some think this was because he had some disagreements with the Priests of Ra, who advocated pyramids).

One thing that is strange is the picture of the feathered serpent inside the temple. That's not a very Egyptian motif, it's instead a symbol of Quetzalcoatl, the chief deity in the Aztec pantheon.

[Tendou Souji]

Well, New Armes itself is based on old Arabian culture, not on Egyptian...

Exactly when was New Armes created? And by who, and for exactly what reason did he/she decide to restore the Armes' name?

[Vextor]

We're not really discussing New Armes in this thread.

[Archy]

Wait, there's a symbol of Quetzalcoatl there? I must have missed that. Where there?
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[Vextor]

On the wall where Jeane does whatever she did, and where you can enter subterranean antechambers via a hole if you bring Eresh with you.

[Aesa]

I just thought of something, if the Sun Rune is only able to be born by a queen then how could a king use it to destroy the nation?

I answer myself: He probably used it much the same way Mascral did...Mascral found the technique to use it through Jeane probably. Killey more than likely knew about how but refused to answer, hence him being thrown into jail. Therefore Jeane may have directed him to the ruins...just a theory of mine...
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[Acheron]

Well the thing about that is the reason the Queen is the one who bears it is that the statute of Suikoden says that if an elder family relative could bear the rune than you can if it's a direct lineage. The Queen's of Falena are all from the original Queen of Falena, Arshtwal (the one descending from the skies one in the distant past). That's why they bear the rune. Furthermore the rune is rarely beared by anyone, the Queen being the most prevalent. Others aren't allowed to use it, period. So it doesn't just chose women. It chooses those of the right bloodline with access to it, narrowing the list down to the Queen almost exclusively.

Therefore it is quite possible that the Ancient King of Armes beared the rune, in fact that's what the game says. It says that he destroyed Falena with it. I think that meant he beared it in order to do it.

[Vextor]

Actually, anybody can be the bearer of the Sun Rune if they fulfill a certain critieria: they have to have been the bearer of both the Twilight and Dawn runes at one time or another. This is why the Queen traditionally traveled to the East and West Villas before marriage to temporarily bear the two runes, and the reason why Lymslair was unable to bear the Sun Rune.

Of course, the Twilight and Dawn rune are very picky on who can be their bearer. However, even Lyon, who is not of the Falena bloodline, was chosen as the bearer of the Twilight Rune, which shows that pretty much anybody can be the bearer as long as they are chosen. The prince being the bearer also shows that males can become the bearer pf the Sun Rune.

Heck, with Jeane's help, even Alenia would be able to bear the Sun Rune.

[Rainrir]

Boss..are you sure that is true..I mean...that a person must have been a bearer of the Twlight and Dawn Runes once to be able to bear the Sun Rune?

Then it strikes me as odd that the ANCIENT King of Armes did not bear all three runes at the same time...he probably wouldn't have gone mad and nuked the whole of Falaena...Or did the Ancient King of Armes bore the Sun Rune BEFORE the Night Rune, who (heh) acts as a check to the Sun Runes power when they where first created from the Darkness, severed the link between the Sun Rune and itself...creating the Dawn and Twilight Runes after that...after the Sun Rune went out of control? Remember I am pretty sutre noone but Windy knew how to bear two True Runes at once.

Or could it be that the Ancient King of Armes is only a 2 rune slot character..heh heh heh heh....lets hope all future Queens of Falaena is a 3 sloter then.... :mrgreen:

[Vextor]

Yeah, I'm sure it's true. Folks at the Western Villa tell you this after you capture Stormfist.

[Linnaeus]