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Vextor
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 Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 4:13 pm Post subject: War Against Error |
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In my never-ending quest to find ways to make this site faster, I decided to tackle the issue of errors. There are many scripts at suikox that produce minor errors which probably confuse computers and stop them in their tracks for a moment before they decide to continue. Checking the error logs, it seems like this can be a cause of slowness to an extent. This, I will be focusing my attention on fixing scripts to eliminate errors with extreme prejudice.
This also means I will be doing less of other stuff, meaning phase 10 may start later than expected. Meanwhile, please sit back, relax, and enjoy the scenery or continue bashing your head in the wall, whichever your pleasure may be. |
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Earthquake923
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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Does this mean we should no longer post new errors, say the current one where the page fails to come up, and you have to relog in. It likes to mark all posts as read for you.
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Vextor
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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| That's caused by your browser's setting, typically seen with IE and AOL's default setting, or when you have extra powerful firewalls. Nothing I can do to eliminate that unless you don't mind me hacking into your computer and nuke your antivirus program (of course, I don't have the capability to do that). |
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Yvl
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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Witty title.
What is it exactly that makes this site so much different from any other forums site that you have to use such a slow server?
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Jorge Prima
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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Wow,"Best Title EVER"....
It's getting a little better I think, I only get the 500 error every hour or so..
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Vextor
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Yvl wrote: |
Witty title.
What is it exactly that makes this site so much different from any other forums site that you have to use such a slow server? |
What makes it different is the number of queries this site launches. I also assume there's many problems with how I updated this forum. This forum is currently phpBB v 2.0.20, but when this forum started it was v 2.0.6, which means I updated the entire thing 14 times since the original. There's bound to be some errors (although I try to correct them when I find them).
However, the largest reason for the slowness is that this site is competing with more than 100 other sites that exist on the same server, who likely have their own SQL queries to launch to the database server. This is why during certain times of the day the site loads pretty fast and without any 500 server errors. 500 server errors happen when there's too many queries being launched that the link between the two servers can't handle it.
It's like a bridge that spans an immense, bottomless gorge between two islands. Every time you load a page, its like a car that drives over the bridge to send some information (data packets) to the database server. In response, another car gets sent over the bridge with a reply.
When manu queries are launched at the same time from suikox and other sites on the server, the "bridge" gets rather congested, leading to a traffic jam. In some cases, some cars will plunge off the bridge into the abyss (leading to 500 errors -- the query times out).
What I am doing right now is to reduce the "number of cars" and to make more data "carpool" together so that less queries need to be sent at the same time. Some of the earlier scripts I wrote had about 20 separate queries for something that should only need one. Consolidating those should have had some effect, but I am afraid the server is getting more crowded.
The other reason is that I don't want to shell out any more cash to run this site beyond what I pay currently. Most other hosts will be unable to handle suikox, and will likely shut us down without warning. The current hosts allows suikox to exist although we have to live with the slowness. Other large sites, such as Suikosource has servers run by people who are personal friends of the administrator; thus they have better environments.
So, if anybody is willing to cut us a good deal with a nearly dedicated server or something, that'd be cool.
However, meanwhile, I'll just continue my war on error. |
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Lord Vader
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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This is a good thing. I have been having issues signing in on the first try. I automatically sign in and it is really slow then just shows Page can't be displayed or watever. Then I have to go ahead and go to the site again and sign in.
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Vextor
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| Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 2:09 am Post subject: |
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| Well, the war on error has been rather successful. I seem to have been able to erradicate about 95% of errors so far. |
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Goldy
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| Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 4:26 am Post subject: |
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| Definetly noticable, the pages load alot faster for me now. |
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dark-knight
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| Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 7:56 am Post subject: |
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^yup mine too. as compared to when i first joined the suikox forums.
and since im already in this thread and that you, sars, is here, i might as well tell you this:
i dont know if this is an error or something but as i was trying to convert some potch to soldiers something happened that somehow lead me to doing it again (if i remember correctly, i clicked "convert" once then it seems like it didnt had any effect then i entered it again and i saw that ive gotten twice of what i originally planned to have) just wanna know if this is because of the slow server or if it was an error. just wanna notify you though. :wink:
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Elc
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| Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 9:21 am Post subject: |
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It has happened to me before, but what generally happens with conversion is the change isn't reflected until you refresh the page.
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Vextor
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| Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:53 am Post subject: |
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| I fixed the "convert" problem, because to me it made no sense how it can happen. Now changes will be reflected immediately. Apparently, the exchange script contained an error which casued this. So again the War on Error has produced good results. |
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Vertius
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| Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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I'm definitely noticing a difference. When I come on here, I used to have two internet programs running at the same time, so while Suikox loads another page, I'd do something else on the other program.
At the moment, when I load a page, it loads before I get a chance to do anything in the other program. It's much better now!
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Vextor
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| Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, I fixed what appeared to be a source of potentially a major cause of slowness last night. I can't be sure if that was it until 24 hours pass after I made the fix. |
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| Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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Wow Sars, With such good results on the War against Error you should try to get hired in the white house (God knows they need help with thier Wars on non-nations).
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