Just a thought, whats yours?

[TheAngelicSin]

[Jebus]

[TheAngelicSin]

All I know is I'm thankful it didn't fall through. ;P If I'm going to be pursuing that PhD in Physics I'm going to be in college for a very LONG time - and taking a year or so off just wouldn't be an option!
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[Filipe]

I think a draft should only be put into place in extreme circumstances where unforseen circumstances bring about reasons for having to force people to join if they do not volunteer freely. However under any normal circumstances like if they go to war or something and it's rather mild and they already have enough to keep the situation good than there is no reason to make a draft to get more people to come into the army. However if it was something huge like another world war which is an exceptional case then yes if there is not enough people in the army at the moment then a draft would be very appropriate but otherwise no.
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[kuwaizair]

I hear the "agest" rant all the time, just when if comes from pot-head 17 year olds its like "ueah, i know what you'll vote for"

also what the hell is it with booze and the likes? OMG I need to be drunk! come on, is that what is to live and be human? I feel so allinated that I don't have an inclination to drink, the strangest thing is, "i come from a line of lushes" my mom says.

Pinky Up! I have my tea thankuyouverymuch, keep your coffie and wine and let me wallow in my sadness.
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[TheAngelicSin]

Hey, I'm quarter Irish and I don't care for drinking! ;D

But really, it's starting to seem like most of the people I've acquainted myself with in this university is only here for the parties and booze. :| It's really quite sad... And I hope I can start running into some people who have better things to do with their time... ^^; Or you know, maybe not better, just what I do with my time. :D
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[Calvin]

If I remember correctly that bill you were speaking of is still in the House and has been for quite some time now. The bill aimed to rewrite the Selective Service act to allow woman to be drafted, which I personally don't have a problem with. I believe men and women should be held to the same standards, but that's another debate altogether.

My biggest problem with that bill was all the power it gave to the president. The president was the one who, due to the horrible wording of the bill, had the sole authority to decide the when, where and how of every citizen's "mandatory" two years of national service.

Of course, I disagree with having a draft in the first place. As far as I see it, there's a difference between defending one's homeland and attacking some other country, for whatever reason. In the unlikely event of the United States coming under attack, I would understand it if the draft was used to protect the continental United States from invasion, but that's about the extent of it. Though even then I wouldn't really see the need, as despite what people think there is a huge amount of patriotism in the United States when the country faces crisis--I'm sure people would enlist of their own accord.

And as an enlisted person in the USAF, I can tell you that a draft just isn't likely at all here--the United States military is actually cutting thousands of jobs. It is harder to get into the military now than it ever has been. Granted, if you want to serve, and you've been a good person in your lifetime, the military will take you--but if you've got federal offenses or medical problems than you're less likely to be allowed to serve. They just aren't writing as many waivers nowadays.

As for the topic of this thread, I've always believe in self-accountability. If you're old enough to be considered "old enough to make your own decisions," old enough to be an adult, than you're sure as hell old enough to drink, regardless of when you can join the army. In reality, the drinking age isn't stopping youths from drinking, so it's really not a huge issue. I think that if we lowered the drinking age and started teaching more about responsible drinking, than perhaps alchohol abuse would decrease. A lot of kids develop alcoholism at a young age in the US.
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things to me, that make me fall down on my knees.

[TheAngelicSin]

Yeah but it seems teaching people about STDs from their early teenage years didn't seem to do much for many people I've encountered. In fact I take that back... Sex Ed. in general didn't seem to help many of them since they thought that the whole "pulling out" thing really worked and the teacher was just on the side of the parents so that they wouldn't be allowed to sleep together. People will be ignorant and find ways around everything if they want to.

I'll continue my belief that women shouldn't be drafted - but then again no one should be drafted and recruited against their will to serve for a country they don't feel like fighting for.

You realize that even if the US was attacking a country they could always try to use propaganda to their advantage and convince the citizens (at least try to..) that the states themselves are under attack by saying "troops stationed in Xnation attacked yesterday.... 34 killed, 42 injured.... terror threats made against the US... troops to sneak into the states," etc. It's not impossible to twist the truth and break its arm in the process.
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[Alucard]

Well for ppl pointing at me :
You understand me wrong, I talk about the old warfear...
Where real tactics where needed and leaders whent to go drink tea with eachother
and had respect for one an other.

Btw this thread is about YOUR OWN idea, so don't you looking at some1 elses,
If you are christian,Moslim,Boedist, etc i respect that.... do you respect the way of ppl's thinking ?!?
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Proud Blade of the Nameless Lands, Alucard, Blade of Shadows

[Calvin]

[TheAngelicSin]

Yeah I can see a made a little error there - MANY people I've encountered weren't helped by Sex Ed... I think it's more because of their personality perhaps and thinking, "Oh well THAT could NEVER happen to ME!" It has helped maybe three or four people I know become more aware of issues though... But stuff like that just don't seem to aid the masses as much as you'd think they would. Although potentially "saving" one person is worth the effort I'd say.

About your second reply - well let's just hope nothing of the sort happens. Because we know the States can lie and they can be honest. It just depends on what's going on and we can only hope for the best. Hopefully it never actually comes down to a draft though... 'cause that would royally suck. ;P
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[Blaze Silven]

i do agree since all they are being is hypocrites. you can't just set things down like that, saying one thing and doing another. but in effect, it's not like they care about us anyway. if they force you into the military. then they should pay you double, because they're just doing it so they don't have to go, the cowards.

[Cedric]

[Njord]

I don't really know what to say since I am from a place that experienced war in the past, I would only say that war is really a horrible thing and especially for a young person to experience and to witness it's dark and awful face.

In this time and place where we live, war has become such an easy tool to use whenever someone wishes for it just for his or her own personal benefit, which has become a really disparate excuse to use just to justify their miserable action to gain something by force rather than talk.

Anyway, I just want to say that I'm totally against forcing someone to fight even if it is for a good cause because every human being has the right to act by there own free well.
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[Inko]

There will not be a draft.

Someone in congress proposed it but it only got 2 votes for yes.