How about a Tenkai from another race?

dark-knight · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:28 am Post subject:

a nonhuman tenkai star is a refreshing idea for me. they can tackle a lot of things from the racism in the suikoden world to the nonhuman's point of view of how the humans try to 'rule' the world.
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Ninjar · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:23 pm Post subject:

I would find it amusing to see a Nay-Kobold as a Tenkai. That is if they weren't like any of the Nay-Kobolds we have seen...except maybe Nalkul. Then again, I liked Chiepoo as well. It's just that Champo would be too incompetent to lead.

TruePerception · Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:15 pm Post subject:

Red, the reason RPG main characters don't have bows(or other ranged weapons) as there main weapons is that a leader is supposed to be conveyed as strong and is supposed LEAD, something which is not accomplished by standing in the back row. Honestly, if you were joining someones cause, would you stay if he hung out in the back row, while you took all the hits?
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RedCydranth · Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:22 pm Post subject:

In all actuality, yes. Its seriously not wise for the proclaimed "hero" to be constantly exposed to opponents. If I were to vow to help this hero I'd gladly protect him or her. Look at how the Queen's Knights do everything in their power (Well, the good ones like Miakis, Georg, Kyle and Galleon) to protect their leader. To say that a hero isn't strong because he's not skilled with a sword/staff/axe/spear/tonfa/nunchaku etc. is really not true. I doubt Arshtat could slice and dice with a sword and she was a great leader. Until the Sun Rune thing overtook her mind..yadda yadda.

Leadership isn't based on what weapon you use or how you fight with it. Its based on the ability to do the right thing at the right time, say the correct things when neccessary, and of all RPG series out there, I think Suikoden is most apt to showing what it takes for someone to be a true leader. Just because the person uses a bow doesn't disqualify him from being a good leader or a hero.
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Zahak · Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:49 pm Post subject:

Yo I wonder what it would be like if Suikoden VI takes place in the Blue Moon and the Tenkai is actually a vampire.

Hoodman · Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 4:18 am Post subject:

eh I say female before different race
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Elzamine · Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:38 pm Post subject:

Suikoden has always been a male human as the main character, some diversity would be nice. I think easing in a female lead may be a wiser choice than a different race. While I would love to see an elf as a main character, I could definitely see it being a flop. I find people more drastic with opinions about different suikoden races, more love or hate anyway. While everyone may not like playing a human main character, it's always familliar to identify with so it can't really go wrong, it's a safezone of sorts. I find gender changes are accepted more readily in games.

For the topic itself though, I'd love to see an elf tenkai. Being able to see how an elven village works and how they act when humans aren't around and just basics of the community would be nice. The suikoden elves have this fear or hate of humans in general, it'd be nice to see elves expanded upon by a main character which is a elf in support of racial diversity and dealing with the elven background of a basic anti-human/agressive race nature.
That said though, I'm biased to elves, so it works for me but I could see how it wouldn't for others.
The idea is interesting, but I doubt we'll be seeing a non human tenkai, perhaps we're ready for a gender change though :)
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Etenralmaiden · Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 12:22 am Post subject:

Well it would really bother me either except maybe for the fact that I actually kinda like mermaids...but we're never gonna get any right? :'(
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vampiric · Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:52 am Post subject:

hello, a newb here^^. I played suikoden 2, 3, 4 and 5. I missed the first suikoden because I never had a psx. I played suikoden 2 on emulator.
Btw, I like the idea of non-human tenkai star.
I too prefer the elf, since they are the most seen non-human races on the series. But I think, the non-human tenkai star races should be a major political races at the story.
So, if the tenkai star is a non-human race, the place it took story should be a place with a rather powerful non-human faction. For example it should not just an elven village, but an elven nation-like faction. Perhaps kingdom, perhaps druidhood, perhaps elven theocracy, etc. So it would make sense that the tenkai star character, is also connected to powerful people, a suikoden tradition (son of a general, adopted son/grandson of a hero, lost prince, and prince of a queendom).
Not I said it should be a elven majoritiy story, but I think it still make sense if the story, about relationship of elves and humans if the elves not just a small faction, unlike previos series
for example, about an elven faction that had major diplomatic problem with its humans neighbours, which turned into a war when one of elven strong person assassinated. The elves start the war, with major victory over victory, yet when their humans foe factions united the elves turned to be defeated. When a truce was reached and peace nearly settled, something happened which is some power hungry human plots, which chasing of powerful true rune, which the elfs guard, etc. And there, the story begin. Btw, this just example if the tenkai star is non-human (in this case Elf).

Flamo Bringer · Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:15 am Post subject:

I'd love to see a Lycanthropes Tenkai or a Vampire Tenkai :mrgreen:

and to you vampiric, welcome to the forum!! :wink: and i hope you enjoy your stay 8-)

Tullaryx · Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:07 am Post subject:

It may not be the best idea, but it sure would be an amusing Suikoden game if the Tenkai was of the Beavers.

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Flamo Bringer · Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:44 am Post subject:

Heheh, the Tenkai would be... short...
and hey, how about a mermaid or merman or something... like swimming in the oceans, gathering stars from every part of the ocean...
and combined with the True Ocean Rune, whatever it will do :mrgreen:

Sailor Sexy · Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:48 am Post subject:

I'd never be able to beat that game because I'd continually let the hero die. I hate those damn beavers.

Anyways, I'm gonna have to say no to the idea of a non-human Tenkai. It really seems that the majority of people who are for it would want an elf Tenkai and that wouldn't work. Elves generally don't trust humans, and humans aren't overly trusting of elves, and with humans being the most populace race in the Suikoverse, it just wouldn't be very believable that an elf could unite an army of thousands, the majority of which would be humans.

I also don't care much for the idea of a female Tenkai, but that's more to do with me being male and liking to put myself in the shoes of the hero, and because I like there to be a romantic undertone between the hero and another character. It just wouldn't be the same for me if the sexes were reversed.

Now, don't get me wrong, I wouldn't refuse to buy the game if they did change to a non-human or a female Tenkai, I just much prefer the status quo.
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