How big are they?

Aurelien · Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:30 am Post subject:

While I agree that Tinto could have some good metals to work with, I'm just not sure whether they actually would use them to make equipments. I mean, maybe for armor and helmet (which we really have no idea to be honest), but probably that's about it. No other technology whatsoever I think?
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Gwendal · Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:22 pm Post subject:

Maiazuru · Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 10:22 pm Post subject:

Basing myself to the non-cannon but accepted populations of Vinay Del Zexay and Brass Castle as 9000 and 2000 respectively, calcultation the soldier to civilian ratios on both (I had time, with a swelled up foot), I can say that VDZ has roughly 1800 soldiers, while Brass Castle has about 1200. As such, given the fact that this is perhaps 3/4 of Zexen's entire forces, I'd say the Federation Army is about 4000 strong.

Further divided, I'd say 800 knights and 3200+ soldiers.

I have no idea about the Zexen naval fleet.

Hows that? :D

Lord Riou · Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 11:12 pm Post subject:

well that's not too big considering in suiko 2 highland's forces number almost 55000 I think...
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Maiazuru · Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 11:17 pm Post subject:

40,000, if memory serves. But then again this would be the entire force Highland could muster for an invasion...

Zexen, if pushing itself, could probably field 8,000 or more. Its not as big and populous as Highland seemed to be...

Lord Riou · Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 11:42 pm Post subject:

remember what Apple said each of highland's royal company(maybe) consists of 20000 soldiers or 25000...there is 4 including Luca Blight's 1st Royal Company the White Wolf Guard....2nd would be Sholon Jhee....3rd would be Kiba's.....and 4th I dunno
..that's a lot.
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Kobold · Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 6:08 am Post subject:

well, Harmonia definitely has the biggest army. like someone suggested, their leaders are lousy. They make up quality with quantity...

Dunan and Toran should be equally powerful. We can omit Highland since it's non existent anymore...

Tinto and Zexen should have about the same amount of soldiers.

Grasslands more than Tinto and Zexen but lesser than Dunan and Toran. Of course, their equipments would be lousier than the rest due to the lack of technology. But the skills would be better.
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KoRnholio · Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 5:36 pm Post subject:

You guys are making inconsistent comparisons of the countries.

To be specific, its ignoring the many unnamed cities and towns that are the source of the vast majority of every country's population.

Example: The three cities we know of in Highland total a population of <29,000 people. Their armies totalled much more than that, as seen in Suikoden II.

If we are to accept Maizuru's estimates of 9,000 for Vinay del Zexay and 2,000 for Brass Castle, not only is Iksay village not mentioned, but the rest of the little towns need to be accounted for much more than they have been.

So, to be estimate Highland's army size as 50,000 total, that's still 175% of the total population of their visible cities/towns. Apply that to Zexen, and its almost 20,000 soldiers.

There probably aren't that many Zexen soldiers because Zexen is smaller geographically and so has less room for towns than Highland, but it should still be much higher than 8,000.

Lord Riou · Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:17 pm Post subject:

what sources do you get this stuff...i only get my data on the game itself..
u got magazines..books...hidden scriptures?
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Aurelien · Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:46 pm Post subject:

Maiazuru · Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 11:05 pm Post subject:

My personal opinion...

Zexen:~10,000

Tinto: ~10,000

Grasslands: ~15,000

Dunan: ~50,000

Toran: ~40,000

Harmonia: Who knows? 80,000+ perhaps

These are wartime numbers. Peacetime would be roughly 30-40% of that.

Lord Riou · Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 11:11 pm Post subject:

better get redy..someone might see those stats, and give a piece of thier mind.
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KoRnholio · Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 12:20 am Post subject:

Bugg: Its true the 175% couldn't apply to Jowston, but they're not as militaristic a country as Highland was. But, Zexen seems to be at least as militaristic, if not moreso than Highland even.

Harmonia's number should probably be much higher than that. Keep in mind while they send out their massive battalions out, they're still defending their whole country.....and they have land thats not on the main continent....only 80,000 soldiers probably wouldn't be enough to defend their whole country. If they have 80, Dunan would have a chance against their a full army....and they would definately not. No country would.

Lord Riou · Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 12:58 am Post subject:

Now that's one.

What I read somewhere is harmonia's forces reaches millions including their mercenaries...etc..etc..
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