I hope the Suikoden Franchise doesen't die & Ps3 discussion

[Heroic Knight 3211]

i think suikoden 6 will come out on ps3 and maybe on xbox360 not on Nintendo.

[Sophita]

Future Suikodens will more than likely come out on the Playstation 3. In Japan (where Suikoden is most popular), the Xbox 360 is all but dead on arrival, and I don't think nintendo is really looked at as anything more than a nostalgic factor. I don't think either the Xbox or GameCube sold nearly so much as the ps2, and I don't think the revolution or the Xbox 360 will sell as well as the PS3 either.

I also think it's to early to say it's doomed to be a flop. Though Konami really needs to stop releasing their big games against Squenix titles (who have been hyped up forever). Wait until the sales come in before prophetising doom. (DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!)
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[EZ_Rabbit]

Gamecube sold about 21 million worldwide,
mostly in Japan.

X-Box sold about 23 million worldwide,
but almost entirely in the US.

On top of that, in Japan, the X-Box 360 is currently outsold,
on a regular basis, by the Gamecube.

Thats right...Gamecube outsells the 360 in Japan.

RPGs in general, and Suikoden in particular have their biggest fan bases in Japan.

So there is really no reason for Konami to jump ship to X-Box.

As for Sony?

Well, over 100 million PS2's versus a COMBINED 45 million or so X-Box and GCs...


Basically, the installed base of the Playstation is MUCH higher than Nintendo or Microsoft.

While Nintendo's Revolution could possibly do MUCH better than Gamecube,
it is more or less designed around innovation and new ideas.

Suikoden is about as traditional an rpg as it gets in terms of interface,
and there is no real reason to jump ship for Konami.

That being said...A port of Suikoden 6 to 360, and perhaps an all new game, or an enhanced port to the Revolution, would be fine additions to what will almost certainly be a PS3 centered game.

It just doesn't make sense to do much else.

Also, as of right not, it had been stated that the Revolution will hit America before Thanksgiving. And Sony claims to be planning a worldwide-ish launch around November 11th.

None of that is set in stone, but thats the most recent info.



On a continued life for Suikoden....

The Suikoden series has never been about graphical or technical innovation.
As such, the games generally remain cost effective for Konami to produce.

If PS3 is too expensive, the Nintendo Revolution would be very appealing.
The X-Box will likely be much closer to the PS3 in development costs,
and it will almost certainly have a MUCH smaller audience.

So, as far as I am concerned, that makes a Suikoden 6 very likely,
and its place on Playstation similarly assured.

However, it could be a pass over to the Revolution, depending on how well it sells,
and how inexpensive the development is.

X-Box probably won't get any play fromt he series, but an inexpensive port is possible.


Personally, despite my own preference for the Revolution,
I think a Suikoden release on all platforms...ESPECIALLY THE DS,
which is cheap to develop for and could do very nice sprite based graphics,
would be the best thing for the series.

But I expect a simple PS3 only game.

...man that was alot longer than I had planned.
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[Blazing Camp]

I agree, Suikoden would be better suited to going to the PS3. The oringal Xbox was not heavy with RPG titles, and it looks like the 360 is'nt going to be anything different. Nintendo I think still has a good sized fanbase in Japan, and a moderate one in the US but again I don't see Suikoden going over to the Revolution.

The problem I see with Konami jumping to a another platform is that there would be no marketing for it. Let's say that for some reason Konami ports Suikoden 6 to the Revolution, I doubt there will be alot of the fans going over to the Revoultion for it. Also Konami has'nt been very confident marketing-wise on the PS2 so to go try to garner a bigger fanbase on another console for Suikoden would be impossible because there would'nt be alot of advertsising for the games.

To summarize, I think Suikoden is best to staying on the PS2 and going to the PS3. If only Konami starts putting up more marketing skills in the Suikoden franchise, then all this talk of Suikoden flopping sales-wise would stop. I hope I made sense. :P

[Zahak]

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[Falcon Critical]

I see no reason for Konami or Suikoden to leave the PS2. Konami is all about adding little value things to its games, i.e. Psycho Mantis in MGS reads your memory card and tells you what other Konami games you play, combine that with the Suikoden efforts to create a stand alone world shown in snippets with data transfer often offered, this means jumping platforms would be a serious move for them and they'd be snobbing a lot of their fanbase.

Gamecube/Revolution... Nintendo has had some awesome games like the upcoming Zelda and Resident Evil, that show the Nintendo systems are not necessarily just for kiddy games, there is no denying the power and prowess of these systems yet they time and again are outsold due to the games and franchises that Sony has.

Will there be Suikoden VI..? I consider it likely. Will it be in PS3? If it is created I seriously dont think there is any other console it could be on.
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[Blazing Camp]

Another point I'd like to add in. With all the new technology that's going to be into the next-gen consoles (the blu-ray disc in the PS3), it'd be very costly to have a game be multi-platform. IN Suikoden's case, I don't see Konami trying to make it a mutli-platform game because of the added costs.

[Prophecy]

exactly, someone here mentioned the fanbase. You have to keep in acount that alot of people bought PS2 solely for the RPG's,, and even PS1. So to switch consoles would hurt the profit considerably. They'd lose so much money, which would suck..
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[Himuro]

[Linnaeus]

Even though the sales of Suikoden V aren't as great as KH2 and other such games, Suikoden is still a popular series. And there are many, MANY fans all over the world, so there is no way that Konami would just stop the series dead in its tracks right now. And from Sars' review on Suikoden V, it looks like the series isn't going anywhere.

[Son of Liberty]

I agree. There's so many explanation for Konami to do in Suikoden and they cannot just die down leaving us scratching our heads speculating.

As for the console issue, we'll leave by the time all the next-gen consoles begin to compete.

[Sami]

[Magus]

From what I know the Suikoden fanbase has never been all that large. I think that if Konami expected big sales from the series, they likely would have canned the series long ago. Right now their main priority seems to be putting out quality games for the series.
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[skymansxeno]

Why do Suikoden fans have this discussion every single time a Suikoden game comes out? If the series hasn't died after the sales of I, II, IV and Rahps it's probably not going to die. EVER (at least until the series is concluded). Plus I think Suikoden V will have criticle success here in the states so that that helps things a bit.

Plus, if I'm not mistaken there were already talks of the future of the series in interviews with Kawano. She said that Suikoden games only on the Sony formats have been not been on purpose and that they may have interest in putting a game on the revolution (can't remember where the interview was). Plus she had a statement long ago when Suikoden V was barely announced that she was looking to new people to work on the series.

So all in all, the suikoden series isn't going anywhere.

[Skooboi]