Suikoden Disc

Punishment_xmas · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 4:42 am Post subject: Suikoden Disc

Suikoden V 1 disc or 2disc or 2layer
I hope 1 disc

melange · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 4:46 am Post subject:

Its probably just one disc... judging from the fact that the *cough*illegal*cough*torrents*cough* of the game are only about 3.7G or so large... :|
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Leon Silverberg · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 5:29 am Post subject:

It's only one single-sided PS2 DVD. I never thought that it would come as a double-sided DVD or 2 DVDs.. If that would be the case, we've heard of it from Japanese guys that already have it..

Nevertheless..the game will probably be big/long.
They decided to rebuild Suiko 1/2 graphics in 3D and that won't take so much space on a DVD, seeing how much they had packed on a CD in psx times in suiko2. I mean..look how much music there was on the suiko2 game cd! Although the PC Version of Suikoden 2 had 2 CDs..

There will be more Discs in the Limited Edition..but i don't know what exactly is in it..I Only know that the cover is different, it contains a History of Suikoden DVD and that it comes in a special Box-Case

Thief · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:19 am Post subject:

Perhaps the limitation of a single DVD production is one of the factor that contributed to the high frequency of loading delays that's apparent in the game?

You simply cannot compare these 3D games with those older 2D CD-based ones, no matter how closely they resemble each other. The technology involved in achieving that kind of look and feel is dissimilar, and thus the amount of disc space required must differ.

Leon Silverberg · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:43 am Post subject:

No..i know..

But these are hardware limitations of the ps2..
Not DVD.. the access-time of a dvd is high enough to make it load fast..
i mean..when you look a dvd it loads at the beginning and then plays without loading 'breaks..

It's simply because it's hard to deal with a console's hardware when it comes to loading.. The programmers sure want to make them as short as possible, but there are limitations.. I can't hear/read this whining about loading times anymore..The loading times are not to long..and yeah ok..than it loads 4-5 times in a big city or so..but who cares?
Don't you have enough time? I mean..quite now you're sitting and answer topics on this board.. If load times are 10 or 15 secs.. what's the problem?
I know games where you wait 1 minute or longer..

The only thing i'm worrying about is the high rate of random battle some guys talk about... that is annoying.. but that is also not right..in the videos of bebpo you see hero5 on the worldmap he walks 10 secs, then a battle starts..after this he can walk a long while without battle to the next location..

i'm playing suiko because i love the story and the suiko world.
not because i want to see best graphics, short loadtimes and so on..
When suikoden 1 came out, everyone talked about the shitty graphics..
but look at the series now! What happened with it? And suikoden 2 was full of bugs..After all it's claimed as the best suikoden game!

i think most people are angry about suikoden 4 and tactics that they try to find anything "bad" in suikoden 5 so that they can say.."ah i knew it..suikoden is going down...konami sucks..bla..bla..bla"....

i think..as a fan you have to make your own picture of a game..and you will first be able to do so when you're able to play suikoden 5 with your own hands...Don't give a shit about the meanings of a few people that maybe only have a pirated copy of suiko5 that is burned on bad media and causes slowdowns...or someting like that

eXistence of Fly · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:14 am Post subject:

Leon Silverberg · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:05 am Post subject:

ok you're right.. i know. i'm disappointed too..but after all that games that we're not released, we should be glad that suiko 5 is coming to us.

it is not obvious that games are making it out of japan..we can be glad for every game that leaves japan and masters the way from japan to europe or the usa. there are so much games that didn't were released outside of japan...as a fan it's hard to see why the developers didn't release it in us/eu but there are reasons...sometimes good reasons but also lazyness, ignorance and so on.. but i think we shouldn't be so critical.. many spent their money in buying suikoden 4..that was disappointing.

konami noticed it, and tried to do a better job this time.. when we cry like babys about every little bug than they will someday say, that they stop the series due to the problems.. hmm.. ok.. i don't know where this is going but now i think they should stop milking the series when they aren't able to release a good game.. what i want to say is..don't expect to much.. we have the reference to suikoden 2 in our heads..
Movie sequels and new albums from bands are also often disappointing...nobody is perfect.. i still think that suikoden got on a path of improvement and it will develop positive..

uwangski · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:46 pm Post subject:

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Sophita · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:46 pm Post subject:

Not to mention the really ..............bad translation!!!!!!!!! One period or exclamation mark just won't do!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Though that's not so much a bug!!! Just..............annoying!!!!!!

Are people really mad about the suikogaidens and card stories not getting an American/European release? Or Suikoden 3 not getting a PAL release? I mean, those were released quite a while ago. 0.o I think people are probably vaguely disappointed, but I don't think anyone is militantly mad about that.

Long load times aren't the worst thing to happen to a game; a bit annoying, but hardly any game is damned due to long load times. Honestly, if they were such a problem, we'd never have switched to a primarily-CD format in consoles; we'd have stayed with cardridges (which had no load times).

And I'm perfectly fine if Suikoden V has a few problems; no game is perfect. It's only an issue when the game's problems outstrip it's good qualities.
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Camus the Noble · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 4:28 pm Post subject:

Zahak · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 5:05 pm Post subject:

Of course its going to be one disc, or two for the preorder special thing right? so Suikogaidens will never be released over here?
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Leon Silverberg · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 6:01 pm Post subject:

i think that a bad translations is the worst thing in a game like suikoden..
i want to know the story..and when there are so many misstranslations and false infos, then you get confused by it and i think that is really annoying..so i just wanted to say..every game has his bad and good points..suiko5 will be better than 4 and thats enough for the moment..we will see it with our "own" eyes

Aesa · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:02 pm Post subject:

I'm just going to say one disc, because I have a feeling...
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VikiFanatic · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:42 pm Post subject:

Wouldn't it be strange if Suikoden ever had more than just ONE disc? It's practically an unbroken tradition for the games. It's hardly unimaginable for anything like that to happen.. Since doing so would increase the price of the game... That would be a bad idea if Konami was still trying to propagate a large enough fanbase. :mrgreen:
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