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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:42 am    Post subject: Suikoden II's Story Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Well, I must first start off with a short anecdote. I bought a used copy of Suikoden II on ebay. It was to be perfectly functional, but I found out, after a few months of owning the game, that it would always freeze against some Highland Soldiers right after Luca Blight flees from the three-party encounter. The battle screen never opens.

Now, here is my question. Should I read a script of the game online so that I can understand Suikoden's history better, or should I hold out until a day where I might get a chance to play the game? Would reading the script ruin the experience should I ever get a chance to play the game through? Should I go ahead and read it, to understand the story, and then look for a copy if/when I choose to purchase it?

Please give me some advice, Suikoden veterans, but please, please do not spoil it for me in this thread. Thank you very much.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

What are you talking about, that IS the end of the game.


Okay, I'm lying obviously. I suppose you understand the general ending of the game, but are asking if you should check out the minute details? My personal preference would be to wait it out. There are several surprises in the game that I think I'd want to figure out/come across on my own rather than just reading about them. On the other hand, the chance of getting a copy for a less than stellar amount of money is unlikely.

I still vote for waiting. Unless you know all the big spoilers in the game already, I think it would ruin it.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Go to a used game store such as Game Crazy and have them post a search through there stores for a copy. Theres a good chance they won't find it , as they told me they probably wouldn't when I tried, but I still did (it only cost a $5 dollar deposit) and about a week or two later they had tracked down a copy for me from one of there stores. It had no scratches, only cost me like $20, and I've had it for two years and haven't had a problem yet *knock on wood*

Good Luck!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I've tried many things in order to get that game, but I guess I could put more effort into my search. I've tried all of the local game stores and I haven't seen it anywhere. Well, I haven't seen it anywhere where the shop owners don't know its real value.

I actually have been pretty good about not hearing spoilers. I just avoid all Suikoden II discussion. I do know that the three primary main characters live on, because people have talked about their lives after the game. However, I'm completely ignorant of game facts after the Luca Blight battle there. Heck, I don't know who the last boss is, though I suspect it will be Luca. Don't tell me though.

And Sage, nice try there. It would be pretty great to fight some Highland soldiers as the last boss battle. Hey, Troy was a piece of cake last boss. No, I don't know why I'm putting this in black text, but since I'm not wanting others to spoil anything here, I better provide a good example. Anyway, if anyone on this site would like to mail me their copy for rental and then have me mail it back a few months later, I'd very much appreciate it. :wink:

Edit: I switched the word "mail" with the word "main" in the last sentence there. >_<


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Sure thing :roll:
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

You could download it and burn it off the internet. You already own the game anyway and it would just be like having a back up copy.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

If your PSOne is old, try running the game using a PSX emulator. Take the game, rip it to a CUE/BIN combination, and then load it up. There are often problems with crappy PSX lasers and PS2 lasers that freeze the game up.

Besides, a cool thing about playing on the emulator (besides sharper graphics, no load times, unlimited memory card slots) is that you can take super-sharp screenshots from your screen. You won't be able to load your Suikoden I data directly, but maybe you can find some Suikoden I memory card dumps online on GameFAQs for your game.

As for your actual question regarding the story? If you really can't get the game to work, I say why not? Go ahead and just read the rest of the game. It's not going to be as awesome as playing it, but it'll get you up to speed and you'll probably save yourself 20 hours of game time anyway.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Arcana wrote:
If your PSOne is old, try running the game using a PSX emulator. Take the game, rip it to a CUE/BIN combination, and then load it up. There are often problems with crappy PSX lasers and PS2 lasers that freeze the game up.

Besides, a cool thing about playing on the emulator (besides sharper graphics, no load times, unlimited memory card slots) is that you can take super-sharp screenshots from your screen. You won't be able to load your Suikoden I data directly, but maybe you can find some Suikoden I memory card dumps online on GameFAQs for your game.

As for your actual question regarding the story? If you really can't get the game to work, I say why not? Go ahead and just read the rest of the game. It's not going to be as awesome as playing it, but it'll get you up to speed and you'll probably save yourself 20 hours of game time anyway.


not even that, i had to resort to ps1emus when my suiko 1 wouldnt load the zombie dragon, pcs nowadays can run the game at speeds of up to 2x what you would experience on the ps1, you could effectivly run in full screen at 200fps. And while you overshoot many a doorway in a wain attempt toovercorrect for the speed you actually take 5 hours to rack up '40 hours of gameplay' due to it.

That makes going through parts you already have a breeze, and you technically can load your memory card onto your pc, though youd have to be one of the vast minority who actually paid for a dex drive. Such a horrid innovation.

I would say wait before reading though, youve played through a majority of the game itd be like cheating if you just didnt bother and read the rest. Id at least look around a tad before id start reading. (hell, i scoured the entirity of australia for a damn copy)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I don't speak 'emulator,' so I don't have any idea of what you are talking about. I don't intend on using one either. My system is perfectly fine. The game itself is the actual problem. I've tried it on several systems and it behaves the same way.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I would certainly wait to actually play the game. It really is a gem of a storyline, but the visual effects are crucial. Simply reading a script would deprive you of a lot.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Suikoden II was the first game I played in the series, so maybe I'm biased here, however I think it had the best story out of all 4. I say you wait. You've waited this long already, and trust me when I say you will be glad you did. Reading it just isn't the same. I remember reading the ending of Suikoden III before I played it, and it ruined the whole game for me.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Definately wait man. Suikoden II is not just a great game or an excellent story. It's an experience. The experience would be lost if you simply read the text.

Suikoden II in my opinon gives you one of the best experiences of all the series and is definately worth the wait, and yes even more money.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Man if you were living in Brazil you could by Suikoden II for $2,50! I have two copies actually I lost my first one so I bought another and then I found the one I lost.

Anyway, you should wait man, but you can also do both, read the script and let your imagination create the images for you and the you play the game and see if your imagination was right. :D
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

you should be patient in looking for a new game. the storyline is great and reading it through walkthroughs or anything else will surely take away the enjoyment and excitement when you get to continue playing it. just wait.

it is by far the best suikoden game for me. so it really is worth the time to play it rather than to read and imagine it.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

goto www.gamestop.com, search for Suikoden II, and then put in a search for your area. See what comes up, call the stores that apparently have it, and ask them to reserve it. Voila. Suikdoen II for 50 dollars.
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