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RedCydranth
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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Scenario: Region A launches attack against Region B, Region B launches Raid on Region A.
What happens with defenses of the regions? Sinse an "attack" of sorts is being launched by both sides would
A: Battle be combined
B: Region A fight at Region B while a seperate Battle for the raid occurs on region A
1: Region A loses defense against raid because attack is launched from there
2: Region A still has defense because its only a raid
3: Region B loses defense since raid was launched from there
4: Region B still gets defense bonus since it wasn't a full attack on region A
Or am I way off on all the selections... _________________ I'm sorry and I apologize are the same thing.
Except at a funeral.
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Vextor
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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Raids and normal battles will be separate. They can't be combined. |
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RedCydranth
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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How about the defense thing. If a nation attacks a region that launches a raid does the "defending" region lose the defense bonus? _________________ I'm sorry and I apologize are the same thing.
Except at a funeral.
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Vextor
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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Nope, they don't lose the defense bonus, because raids are separate from normal battles. |
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Timbo
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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Can one region be raided and attacked in the same phase? _________________ "There is no normal life, there's just life. Now get on with it" |
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Vextor
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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That is a good question which I havn't thought about. However, I just thought about it, and logically this should be allowed. |
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Timbo
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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A few other questions:
1. Are Protectorates added into the number of regions owned in the national rankings?
2. Do protectorate supply lines count as supply lines when connected to other regions?
3. Can you attack from a protectorate? _________________ "There is no normal life, there's just life. Now get on with it" |
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Sage
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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1. From counting the regions in the national rankings, I'd have to say yes.
2. Yes.
3. I would assume so, but not 100% sure on that. _________________
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Tony Stark
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 12:12 am Post subject: |
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Theoretically, could a Nation raid itself and not feel the reprocussions? In other words, if you had three extra Politic Points, could you stage a raid from yourself in order to gain potch and whatnot? I don't see why you would, but in theory, could you? I doubt this is possible (though it makes sense for you to be able to raid your own nation, not feeling the consequences might not make as much sense) but I'm asking for curiousity's sake. _________________
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Vextor
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 12:14 am Post subject: |
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You can only raid an enemy |
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Filipe
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:44 am Post subject: |
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Well of course it would only make sense that you can't go, and attack your own region, because then that would be pitting your own units against each other. This would be a result especially if they instilled units set out to defend against these raids, like you had to set someone out type of deal. Wouldnt you then technically be fighting against yourself? Of course that wouldnt make the least bit of sense, but I suppose things just happen to work out that way in the end. I happen to like this whole raid idea, because it makes things a bit more interesting with the war system, however considering it would be a raid, is it logical to announce it in plans? Wouldnt really be any kind of a raid would it, if they could plan for it accordingly, Thats just my take on it anyway, but you know that I am right on this. But I suppose that things work however anyone wants them to, so have fun with that one folks because it could turn out to be a real doozy.
I havent seen any real effect to how my stats are increased, so I cant really make any comment on the issue as of yet. So we shall wait, and see. At that time of course I will make commentary accordingly when i notice some effect on it. _________________
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Masaya
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:07 am Post subject: |
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however considering it would be a raid, is it logical to announce it in plans? Wouldnt really be any kind of a raid would it, if they could plan for it accordingly, Thats just my take on it anyway, but you know that I am right on this. But I suppose that things work however anyone wants them to, so have fun with that one folks because it could turn out to be a real doozy.
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Well... you have to keep in mind that this is still a game, so it's really difficult to get around the fact that SARS kind of needs to know since he well runs the game. For raids to even exisit has to go through him, and he needs to know.. well because they would be finding out sooner or later I suppose..
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I havent seen any real effect to how my stats are increased, so I cant really make any comment on the issue as of yet. So we shall wait, and see. At that time of course I will make commentary accordingly when i notice some effect on it.
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I havn't really either? But I dont' think SARS has done anything to the forum as of yet.. Or I thought he was still messing around with stuff first before he does anything noticable with the stats.. who knows maybe he did something.. but I guess I havn't seen anything.. _________________
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Axiose
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:15 am Post subject: |
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The stat changes havn't gone into effect yet, but they will be.
You do need to declare you choice of raid in your declaration of intent as the enemy you're raiding needs to send units to try and stop your raid. _________________
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Sophita
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:52 am Post subject: |
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Sars Ad-Minh wrote: |
That is a good question which I havn't thought about. However, I just thought about it, and logically this should be allowed. |
Ah, but then who's stuff are you taking? If nation A is raiding territory 10 of Nation B, and Nation C battles Nation B for territory 10 and wins. Who does nation A face - nation B or nation c?
Also, are the raids deducted out of a nation's coiffers, or is it "discovered" (for lack of better word) money, ala the explorations? _________________
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Vextor
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:03 am Post subject: |
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It would be Nation B, because battles happen simultaneously. By the time nation C wins, the raid would be over.
And yes, raids are will actually damage the attacked nation's potch/soldier, etc count. |
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