Can someone explain this mis-hap over Morgan for me?

Deirdre

as we all know Morgan is the blind monk in SI, but when he is recruited he says he's "been blind since birth"

yet on numerous sites and (i believe in the mangas as well) he was reported to be an awesome gladiator in Falena that had his eyes torn out due to winning so much

Could he be lying? or is it just another mistranslation by our pals at Konami?

Camus the Noble · Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:15 pm Post subject:

I think that he said that to disguise his past as a gladiator. I could be wrong though.

Vextor · Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:15 pm Post subject:

Yeah, he was lying. People typically don't tell you all of their past history of angst and slavery upon their first meeting.

Rikimaru · Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:06 pm Post subject:

Maybe we will find out in SV. 8-)

John Layfield · Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:11 pm Post subject:

Jurhael · Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:40 pm Post subject:

Wow. I honestly never knew he was lying, but then again, I never really paid too much attention to him. I always thought that those who angsty pasts usually just stay silent about it rather than lie. Guess not.

Makes him more interesting though and kind of reminds me that I need to pay more attention. Heh.
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Dahgaba · Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:44 am Post subject:

Its the characters that make suikoden a classic. That is why I am still a die hard fan of the series.
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laylei · Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:44 pm Post subject:

I loved Morgan. I used him in my final battle party, and he was pretty good. I hope he's in SV.

I just figured he was lying as well, considering he used to be a slave. He might have been worried someone would "turn him in".

Zaj I mean Mike · Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:17 pm Post subject:

Maybe he ment it like he never looked deeper at people or somthing when you meet him he said he could see your soul or somthing like that. So he feels he can see better without his eyes.
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Kikito · Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:33 pm Post subject:

Heh, I never paye much attention to him either. In fact, up until recently I thought he was a woman. Maybe I'll try to play Suikoden again just to see what exactly he says(I probably won't since I'm too lazy). i do remember the part where he said he was blind from birth, though. Wow, now that he's been brought up it makes me wanna learn more about him. I hope he's in SV, but before he was blinded. I'm sure he could be a really strong ally.

Ormiss · Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:36 pm Post subject:

I'm going to have to apply Ockham's Razor on this and say that the most likely explanation is that the part about gladiatoral battles and slavery is retroactive continuity. Unless it was mentioned somewhere else in Suikoden 1, the fact that he lied is a mere construction after the fact. For all intents and purposes, there was no such background plan in the original game. On the other hand, leaving such details open for later reconstruction is indeed a powerful tool. Writers use this kind of ruse constantly, especially in fantasy. It's all a matter of filling in the blanks and then pretending that you had a plan all along. :D

Noah · Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:28 am Post subject:

What the hell? Where does someone go to find backstory like that? Someone could have made that up since there is almost no backstory for anyone in Suikoden 1... most people in that game seemed to just be in their lives "doing their thing", when suddenly the hero, or "Tir", came along and said "Hey you should join the revolution!" Some people had the nerve to ask for items... some joined without being asked (looks in the direction of Kuromimi, or "Black Ears" to the owners of a Suikoden 1 manual).

I guess every character can't be a Viktor or a Humphrey... or the game would be ALL backstory text and be deemed unplayable... Or tons of plot with small intermissions of gameplay or a level or something, kinda like Xenogears was.

As far as I knew, Morgan was just another "some dude" character like Meese, or Kirke... like a Qlon who could fight.
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Buff · Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:45 am Post subject:

apprently you don't know how to look up stuff.got this stuff off of suikosource.

Hawk Thanatos · Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 3:04 am Post subject:

Apparently you don't know how to quote.

And as to where: a lot of this stuff comes from japanese only publications and the like.

Sophita · Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 3:19 am Post subject:

Buff, don't be rude.

Realistic explanation: It's retconning, just like true-rune users below a certain age continuing to grow.

In-Game explanation: He's lying. He could quite likely have a bounty on his head, and he isn't going to tell some stranger that he was sold as a slave, but his boat wrecked and he wound up washed up in Toran. For all he knows, Tir could easily turn him in for a reward!
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