OLEG!

[The-Traitor-McDohl]

Has anyone noticed that the Oleg the photographer from SIV is the same Oleg the photographer from Kawano's Shadows of Destiny?
Can we expect more Shadows of Destiny cameos in future Kawano Suikodens?
(my apologies if someone has already adressed this)
p.s. EVERYONE, PLEASE STOP PICKING ON JUNKO KAWANO!

[Sophita]

Yes, he is, heh, very similar. And no, most people likely haven't since:

a) Not too many people played Shadows of Destiny (I don't think)

b) Those that did probably don't remember since it was a launch title.

c) He does look a little different.

My guess is we'll continue to see injoke Kawano characters for as long as she works with Suikoden, if they allow her to put them in. *shrugs* Who knows, perhaps next time we'll get Eike. ;)
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[Aurelien]

I think I've heard about it sometime before the release of Suikoden IV that there was a rumor of such character to appear. But since I don't play Shadow of Destiny, I didn't notice it myself. I'm just a bit disappointed that there was a "video recorder" like that in Suikoden world while it doesn't really fit.

While yes character like Meg in Suikoden 2 had a laptop kind of thingy, it was a bit more for comical purposes. On the other hand, Oleg's video recorder was a part of the story. No big deal, but still a bit "out of place" for me.

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06.06.2004 - 20.01.2008

[The-Traitor-McDohl]

Well... there was a speed boat on the original Suikoden.

[Kikito]

I never really payed much attention to Oleg and the fact that he had a camera. I didn't think he was that interesting, even though he had the single most advanced piece of technology in SuikodenIV

[Camillus]

I realised something funny I think. In comment box Oleg wrote that in future he want to make mechanism that would be able to record people's memories. Isn't this direct connection to this other game Shadow of Memories? :?
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[Admiral Ackbar]

Most of the technology in Suikoden is Sindarin in nature. The motor boat, Gadget the talking barrel, all of the trickster gear Meg and Juppo and Belle use, Gadget's GPS device (presumably), the clockwork guards at Lepant's mansion, the Firewind Cannon, and other stuff I'm probably forgetting.

Sergei's elevator is run by water power and I don't think it's Sindarin either. The Suikoden 2 and 3 elevators aren't really advanced; they're pulled by elevator "barbarians". And Super Gadget was based on Sindarin knowledge but formed through the efforts of the various craftsmen of Suikoden 2's SoD.

Oleg's camera was never mentioned as being Sindarin though. Thats what bugs me. It's totally out of place, but unlike the other out of place technology its not included with a sense of humor...its presence is dead serious. If he had just said "I developed this by studying Sindarin knowledge" it would have been more feasible.
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[Username]

I didn't find a primitive non-color camera to be that of a strech. Oleg just got lucky and made something that could change the world. Not that it did given S1-3. Maybe the Island nations have color cameras in the Present time? The Island nations were quite advance given there time frame. The Ship of Obel was huge feat. They are so far the earliest inventors of the elevator. (One that works in a weird way how did that thing get you to the port in obel anyway?) not to mention the camera which was more or less looked over by everyone in Suikoden 4. (They only cared about what it caught and not it itself.) Maybe the camera vanished into the history books. Wouldn't be the first time technolgy that was too advance for it's time got the shaft.
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[Aurelien]

Well the thing is, the video recorder was weird because they didn't even have a "normal camera" technology yet to take photographs. They had no technology to capture a still picture, yet, they could suddenly jump to record a moving image.

One thing also bugged me a bit is Lino's purpose of finding Oleg in the first place. Maybe I missed it (since I've only played the game once), but was it ever explained why Lino wanted to find Oleg? It seems that he had no use of him whatsoever other than the record of Iluya's destruction. Since there is no way that Lino could predict such thing to happen, then what was the point of him trying to find Oleg? Lino didn't even reward Oleg straight away for the record, showing that he wasn't really all that interested in the video recorder.
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~City-States of Jowston and Tinto Republic~
06.06.2004 - 20.01.2008

[Camillus]

Maybe Lino simply wanted to gather those 108 SoD but there is another question: How could he knew Oleg is one of them?
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[Aurelien]

There's no point for Lino for trying to gather the 108 SoDs since he is not the Tenkai Star, and keep in mind at that time, Lino hasn't joined up with Lazlo (Hero IV) yet. So technically speaking, there were no "gathering the Star of Destiny" yet.
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06.06.2004 - 20.01.2008

[runemaster]

Oleg looks a lot like oleg in shadow of destiny but not exactly the same traitor mcdohl ( i am on topic here ok so no one punish me ok)
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