Scarlet Moon Banner

Wataru · Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:35 pm Post subject: Scarlet Moon Banner

I justs started a new game of S1 today and when I was fighting inside Grady's mansion I just had to stop and take a second look at the red banner on the walls. I assume that is the banner of the Scarlet Moon Empire, but what it that thing supposed to be? It is some kind of bird? Some kind of lizard? I know it looks like it's wearing a crown, but with the low-res TV in my room, I can;t for the life of me make out what it is supposed to be a picture of!
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John Layfield · Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:39 pm Post subject:

I assume you mean this?

It does appear to be a bird of some sort, perhaps a phoenix. And it does seem to have a crown upon its head, it doesn't really look like plumage or anything else that could possibly be atop such a creatures head.

As for its releveance and importance, well, there's not much else to say really. It doesn't seem to have any 'ties' to the Scarlet Moon Empire but as a regal-looking bird, may simply symbolise the power and majesty of the crown and the Emperor.
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Wataru · Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:45 pm Post subject:

It's funny, but that graphic comes out 100% clearer than it does on my TV! Thanks.
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kuwaizair · Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 9:45 pm Post subject:

even though they are somtimes 'evil creatures" maybe its a cocatrice? but it could be a phoneix with a crest or crown, or a heron with a crown. I tryed zooming in on it but couldn't see anything that can give answers to what it is.

it could just be "this is symbolism ok...?" like if you design a castle and its from a evil kingdom, the flag would have a nasty dragon on it, or monster bull, but the good guys will have griffens or a lion, or crowned eagle.
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Earthquake923 · Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 9:49 pm Post subject:

I think it's a chicken with a long neck
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Kurt Angle · Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:27 pm Post subject:

What got me to thinking is why would the Scarlet Moon Empire have something cool that looks like a phoenix and the Liberation Army had something that looked like a flower, or a crossbow of some sorts. I'd thought that they would've had something that looked cooler. But as for this, I think that was a phoenix, or another mythical bird that resembles that.
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Filipe · Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:32 am Post subject:

I have always been somewhat intrigued by that but usually just dismissed it as a bird of any number of different sorts. Upon closer inspection of the image I could see how it could be said to be something of a pheonix or even cockatrix. Then again for all we know it could have been made to be some sort of Japanese bird we arent familiar with.
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Arenegeth · Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 4:57 am Post subject:

I'm the only one that thinks is a rooster...

Well it has majesty...

And the crown to go with it...
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Sophita · Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:11 pm Post subject:

Looks somewhat like a heron, to me. Though I can see it as phoenix or cockatrice as well.
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Kekoa Alejandro · Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:38 pm Post subject:

The problem with it being a heron is that herons have long legs in addition to their long necks. That sort of crown isn't what you generally see on herons and egrets anyhow - no, I'd say that it's either a cockatrice or a phoenix. The cockatrice isn't likely to be used as a symbol from a western perspective, since it's a wholly destructive beast - and not even an admirable sort of destruction. You can respect a great dragon for its mighty sinews and noble bearing, but a cockatrice is a scrawny, lizardy little rooster thing that kills with a glance and poison so potent it converts all it walks to wasteland. Not an admirable or likable beast by any stretch of the imagination, but the Japanese have been known to mangle western symbolism on many an occasion, so it might be a cockatrice anyhow. I imagine the phoenix is a more likely candidate, though.

Felipe · Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 1:00 am Post subject:

I think that is a phoenix because of the fact that they used red and yellow to paint it. THey used that colors to make us remember about fire, and then remember about a bird that have a connection with fire, and then remember the name of this bird: Phoenix.

Or they just got this in RPG Maker and put there.
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Raze · Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 2:12 am Post subject:

Tendou Souji · Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:27 am Post subject:

I wll think of the most obvious. It's a crown. (I remembered hearing that birds by the name of crowns exists, or is it only in one of my Yu-Gi-Oh cards?)

Futch · Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 9:05 pm Post subject:

It's clearly a mutated Dove. After years of exposure to Barbarossa's wird flowers in his garden the Dove took the next step of evolution, they became:

Mesmerizing Rabid Fire Engulfed Doves

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Lunarblade · Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:52 pm Post subject:

I personally think it just looks like a stylized dragon...
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