Europeans who have suikoden 3

Exile · Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:23 am Post subject: Europeans who have suikoden 3

Since I've now got the American version of Suikoden 3 I was wondering something, when I booted it up I was asked the question if I wanted to load data from suikoden 2 off my memory card, the real question here though is does the PAL suikoden 2 data allow me to access the extras on Suikoden 3 or will it just make my game to go loopdeloop because of conflicting information (caused by changes between the NTSC and PAL release I would guess)?

Has anyone actually tried this and have a conclusive answer, if not I'm going to have to complete suikoden 2 again to check this out for myself and I was hoping someone could save me the trouble.
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John Layfield · Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:30 am Post subject:

I have not played Suikoden III but I can confirm this.

PAL memory card data is NOT compatible in any form with NTSC games and vice-versa. You cannot upload PAL Suikoden I and II data into an NTSC copy of Suikoden III.

The Suikoden III disc will not read the information at all, it may as well not exist. For an analogy, it's on a different plain of existance. Suikoden III can only 'see' NTSC file data even if PAL data exists on the card it's 'looking' at.

If you want to upload Suikoden I and II data, you're going to need NTSC saves from the NTSC versions of the game.
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Exile · Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:38 am Post subject:

Cheers John, that saves me an effort to test it, and it's what i suspected would be the case. I figured there was always hope however slim it was though.
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Sophita · Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:38 am Post subject:

If you have a dexdrive, you can find some gamesaves of it at Suikosource (scroll down; I believe the last one is the one you'd want to download and load) and there are some at gamefaqs for Suikoden two. Not sure if those will give you the S1 bonus or not; I don't have a dex drive.

If you don't have a dex drive, you might want to download NA saves from Suikosource or Gamefaqs and try to experiment with them. Not sure if they'll give you the bonuses or not, either; don't have a PS2 to computer saver either.

(At least, I'm relatively sure the Suikosource saves are NA. They don't have a marking, and the site seems US based for the most part. Gamefaqs ones are marked.)
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Exile · Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:42 am Post subject:

I lack the required gizmos to go and get downloaded save files onto a memory card for usage but thanks anyway for providing me links to those Sophita. I'm not desperate enough to buy the things I'd need just for two more of Nadir's little screenplays, I think they were the only bonus content you got weren't they?

The Neclord one did sound kinda fun but I'll live without it for now. :)
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Sophita · Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:10 am Post subject:

That and a bonus for the few character carry overs and possibly an entry in one of the old books that mentions whatever you called the army (I think) in S2, otherwise it will probably be "Dunan." That's all I can remember.

Gamefaqs does have the script for all characters for the plays, too, so it's not like you're missing too much. ^_^;
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Arenegeth · Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:32 am Post subject:

I mind, I'm a perfectionist and I have known about this for some time now.

This will be hard to swallow, I may look for the NTSC version of Suikoden I&II or I may use dex-drive, but I doubt I will be able to convince my self to do so, so making perfect playthroughs of I&II twice seems inevitable.

Arghh Konami I will remember this.
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Goldy · Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:32 am Post subject:

Well all my Suikoden's are the NTSC version so i never had that problem. I got fed up trying to find them in Ireland so i imported the lot.

Arenegeth · Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:57 am Post subject:

Sophita · Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 2:01 am Post subject:

Which is why save - and saving often, on multiple files - is a definately good idea, I think.
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Drizzt · Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 2:04 am Post subject:

I remember when I had no knowledge of this problem several years ago and got frequently annoyed for not knowing why my Suikoden data would not load into my Suikoden 2 data. Considering I owned an original PAL Suikoden 1, and an NTSC Suikoden 2 it proved difficult for me to get by this common issue.

I prevailed in the end though, and my Suikoden 2 data transferred perfectly over to my Suikoden 3 (NTSC). My Suikoden 4 is also NTSC (not that it mattered) but since it did not load S3's data that really did not matter, but you never know, it may help out in the future...
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Arenegeth · Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 3:02 am Post subject:

Drizzt · Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 4:39 am Post subject:

In regards to the 00:00 Clock Cheat, it is the only possible way to complete the game 100%. But still, I could never go through 108 battles at the start of the game for the color intro. I mean, I could if I wanted to, but it just takes too long and I always tend to give up. I think the furthest I have managed to get to without 'stuffing' the idea was around 70. If that. It would be nice to see the intro in color but it just takes too much of my valued time :wink:

Eh, maybe one day. (That is my philosophy).
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Axiose · Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:55 am Post subject:

I'm with Goldmember. Except I own PAL version of Suikoden I, II and IV and NTSC versions of them all.

Just because.

I'm a perfectionist and don't like using DEX Drives. So I bought I and II to upload NTSC data to Suikoden III.

I bought Suikoden IV NTSC so I could compare the PAL/NTSC versions, but I got a little bored doing that, so I just played the PAL instead and NTSC remains mostly untouched.

I also own the a German/PAL Suikoden II copy and a Japanese Suikoden IV game as well. Why? I don't know.
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Krawnik · Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 2:31 pm Post subject:

I own all the NTSC versions of I-IV.

But then.... I live in Canada.

....

Well then.

Anyway, transferring data to Suikoden III isn't all that exciting. Tell you the truth, if nobody had told me what happens, I probably never would have noticed the difference between transferred and untransferred games. Transferring from I to II can't be missed, but from II to III nothing cool happens.

If you want a fun play, just do Romeo and Juliet. It's always a winner =)
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