Silverburgs are stratagists, but what about Odessa??

[Beecham]

Has anyone ever wondered that while five of the Silverburgs in the 108 stars are stratagists, but Odessa was not? I mean, her brother Mathiu and uncle Leon was, as were the rest of her family, but yet she was a fighter (not sure about her other brother, but if it is Rikimaru... :lol: ).

Worse still, she does not even seem to have any "blood of stratagists" at all. I mean, how many people with the slightest bit of wit power would charge into their own base, even though it was plain obvious something was amiss?

Does anyone have an explanation for this??

[Mengo]

Well, are we really sure she isn't a strategist (at least having some skills at it) ? when looking at the rebels crew at the beginning of suikoden 1, you find her, Flik, Viktor, Humphrey and Sanchez. If she isn't the strategist of the group, then who is it ?

[Sophita]

I think Odessa is more of a radical, but I imagine she's got some strategy in her blood. It's never defined very well, but I always saw her and Sanchez being the ones who came up with the plans.

As far as her rushing into the base; Odessa (and Mathiu and Caesar I think) is (are) more hot blooded than any other Silverberg, I think. All of them tend to place their emotions above their logic, and thus get into some more dangerous situations as they rush in to try to help those they love. Leon and Albert are almost the exact opposite and are more logical, and weigh their choices and decide according to what is logically the best move. ...I don't think I'm making much sense here.

Basically, I think Odessa (or Mathiu or Caesar, really) is the kind that, if her house were burning down, would rush in to try to save things that meant a lot to her (or at least would certainly want to), whereas Leon or Albert would probably think about insurance forms and the (monetary) worth of what was lost in the fire. Not that they wouldn't be sad, it just ...wouldn't come to them as a first line of thought.

...I still don't think I'm making sense. Oh well...
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[Exile]

If it's any consolation I thought that made perfect sense. I doubt Odessa was strategyless, she created herself a rebellion (albeit small), you must have some sort of plan or how do you convince anyone to believe in you and your chances of defeating a very large and malicious empire.

As to running in to the base she may well have been fine if it wasn't for her instinct to save that child. I can't remember the words but it was probably something like she said she was a woman first blah blah, I'm bad with quotes. Hope that helps explain things to you a little Halberdier and since this is the first post I noticed of yours, welcome to the site.
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[Beecham]

Many thanks to PF!!

I must admit that it is true that strategists seems to have the lack of leadership qualities. However, there is this one particular person that has brains and leadership too. I am, of course, talking about Leon Sliverberg in Suiko 2.

Leon had led the Highland army for a few times, like the attack on the merc fort belonging to Viktor, and the one when Shu did the "fire" thingy. I personally think that strategists can, too, lead.

[DocFrance]

Sure, Silveberg has become a household name when it comes to strategists, but that doesn't mean every Silverberg is skilled in the art of war. My father, his father and his brother, my brother, and I are or have been in the Air Force - but that doesn't mean that my children are guaranteed to be. Caesar and Albert's father George isn't known for doing anything specatacular, and neither is Matthew's and Odessa's mysterious brother.

Odessa was more of a leader than a planner. She could have been a Tenkai Star if fate had dealt her a better hand.

That, and she had to die in order to further the plot.

[Scarlet Assassin]

[Thief]

Weren't Odessa and Mathiu not on good terms prior to her death? Mathiu's words when you met him in Seika seems to hint at this; something about not using their strengths or another...

In terms of leadership, Odessa is still quite many points above Leon. Leon was a General serving under Jowy's command, whereas Odessa led her own army (and as mentioned above, would have fit the Tenkai star figure if fate had not interfere).

Sanchez. He probably played a Tesla-like role, a secretary of sorts to the army. He might contribute some strategies here and there, but I doubt he'd take an active role planning a war against his own beloved Empire. However this is only speculation on my part.

[Barbarossa Rugner]

Although i wouldn't consider Odessa a conventional strategist, i would think she had strategist skills. I think of Odessa as possessing the skills of a strategist, but with a desire for action. Most of the silverbergs only use their skills when called upon. Odessa saw the need for her skills to be used, after her husband's death, and she sprung into action. She took the leadership role upon herself, and in my opinion, worked as both a leader and a strategist at the same time. Obviously in order to form a resistance it takes some sort of strategy, and as the leader Odessa must have possessed this. If Odessa had honed her skills as Mathiu had done, I believe she could have become an adequate strategist.
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[Kit-Kit]

I believe she had used the stategic sense to know when she was going to die, that it would be detrimental for the liberation army to known she had fallen. Same as when Ceaser was trying to save Chisha sorta by having Hugo pretend to be the flame champion.
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