Elenor Silverberg *SPOILERS*

[Tonberry]

I am a little confused about Eleanor Silverberg. I know she has a history, but I honestly don't know much about her. I was wondering if I could get some information about her. I want to know about her connection with Cray and Kika. I think she is a really interesting character and I think a lot needs to be said about her.

EDIT: I don't know if I posted in the wrong place. I posted here because it is Suikoden IV info, but I just thought that it might be better in character discussion. I don't want to spoil anything, so maybe it's better here. I don't know.

[Ranadiel]

Okay I'm going to be doing this from memory, so I might get a couple of things wrong but here it goes.

Eleanor Silverberg originally lived in the Scarlet Moon Empire. She was a strategist for the empire. Cray was her apprentice there. Cray somehow ended up getting the Rune of Punishment and then he cut off his hand. His son ended up getting the rune next and used it to destroy an entire village when some nobles from some country(I think it was either Scarlet Moon Empire or Kooluk) attacked it in an attempt to start a war again. There is an old book that describes that incident a bit better. Following the incident Cray was blamed for the whole thing, so both Cray and Eleanor were exiled.

Eleanor didn't really know what had happened. She ended up becoming a drunk. She joins you simply because she wants tot find out what happened to Cray. As a side note, she mentions at one point of the game that she used family connections to get SME to attack Kooluk in order to get Cray's reinforcements from Kooluk deployed elsewhere. However we never find out how many family members are left in SME or their relation to her.That's all I can remember about her, and I am fairly certain that I didn't make any mistakes.
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[El Leon]

Not many. BTW, The Nobles were from Scarlet Moon. Anyway, That information is right and all. I though since Kika had her hideout nearby, that it was Kika who helped Elenor hide out.

I always thought what Elenor wanted to ask Cray was why he had done the things she Thought he did.
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[Tonberry]

That explains a lot. That is good to know. I didn't really read my old books at all and the whole storyline was a bit confusing. Thanks for the info.

[Aesa]

He never does tell her it seems in the game, even when they're both more than likely about to die
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[Sualtam Lugh]

"That explains a lot. That is good to know. I didn't really read my old books at all and the whole storyline was a bit confusing. Thanks for the info."

This is the good part of Suikoden, as a whole. To get the whole story, in all in complexity, you need to do everything. EVERYTHING. Just playing the game, while still enjoyable, will not relish all that you would want to know.

And that's why Suikoden is awesome.

[El Leon]

It can also be frustrating when they release the backstory of minor characters to Publications never to be heard of outside Japan. If only Suikoden would get a little more popularity, it would encourage them to both release More copies per game and game-related publications (Like the S3 manga).
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[Captain Hero]

They should really start focusing on people outside Japan, because Japan is not the only country who enjoys the Suikoden series. Every Suikoden fan is interested and waiting to know more about each memorable character Konami came up for Suikoden.

Cray and Eleanor? Eleanor joined you because she wanted to find out what made Cray snap. ( Cray's kinda weird, he already got hold of the RoP, and he chopped his hand off to get rid of it and now he's after it again. That's why I want to know more about his history with the RoP. )

Maybe Eleanor befriended the leader of the Pirates, Kika, and wanted to ask for protection from people looking for her. I think that's why Lino wanted to ask Kika where Eleanor was hiding.
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[Tonberry]

I think that it is ENTIRELY possible, but I can't say that it probably is true. You really can't know. Cray was pretty strong so I bet he could have survived somehow and I bet he'd try to save Elenor.

[Urn]

I think it is very possible that Cray and Elenor survived, as well. I think there was a lot more to those two. Cray and Elenor did not seem to be the suicidal type, so I can't imagine that they just waited there for their deaths. I think that they left and went on to handle some other deed which will end up probably not being mentioned.

Also, I think Elenor sympathized with Cray as his family was a victim of the manhunters and I believe Elenor was a noble from the Scarlet Moon Empire. Yes, she trained Cray in the art of war, but I think she was closer to him than just business. I think she wanted to question him about the death of the Nobles who came after his family and find out why he betrayed the Scarlet Moon Empire. I also believe that Elenor may have abandoned the Empire because of her feelings for Cray, as well.

I believe Elenor and Cray have a very interesting history together that should have been fleshed out during the game if both characters had gotten more face time. I think we may have found out that the Silverburgs may have organized the manhunt through orders of the Emperor, but I believe that they were still under Harmonian control at that time...I may be wrong though.
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[Ranadiel]

I personally feel that it is ver likely that both Cray and Elenor survived the end of the game, but I am the sort of person who thinks that unless they actually show the death the person survived. Of course that is from years of watching shows and playing video games where that is true.