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He didn't say it was complex to the point of confusion, he said it was arbitrary and it is. There's really no good reason why you'd expect a gunner to be able to use swords. Better yet, why would you even want one to? As far as the story being above-average I'd say that's not really true. It's average, nothing more. From what I've played and understood it's a standard Final Fantasy fare that is neither terribly engaging nor interesting. Like he said though, the game removes a lot of the fun features and it seems that Konami thinks the 108 stars is the major draw of the series rather than a plot setting and everything will be fine if they just have that. And frankly, if all you need for a game to live up to the name Genso Suikoden is 108 Stars of Destiny you might as well play Koei's games based on the original chinese story. _________________ Prejudice is a great timesaver. It enables you to form opinions without bothering to get facts. |
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:30 am Post subject: Re: Initial reaction in Japan | |
[quote="Raww Le Klueze":2helsbr0]He didn't say it was complex to the point of confusion, he said it was arbitrary and it is. There's really no good reason why you'd expect a gunner to be able to use swords. Better yet, why would you even want one to?
As far as the story being above-average I'd say that's not really true. It's average, nothing more. From what I've played and understood it's a standard Final Fantasy fare that is neither terribly engaging nor interesting. |
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:23 am Post subject: Re: Initial reaction in Japan | |
[quote="Sami":tfnwcqvy]So if people know how to use guns, they shouldn't be able to use swords? |
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And Final Fantasy games have "average" stories for you? |
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Based on that criticism, I think Tierkreis will be fine. |
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:51 am Post subject: Re: Initial reaction in Japan | |
[quote="Raww Le Klueze":1pd6p8ex]He didn't say it was complex to the point of confusion, he said it was arbitrary and it is. There's really no good reason why you'd expect a gunner to be able to use swords. Better yet, why would you even want one to? |
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:28 pm Post subject: Re: Initial reaction in Japan | |||||||||||||||||||
No, that's what you read into his statement.
And if you bothered to read what's been said you'd know that no one said that, what's been said is that it's completely arbitrary who can use what weapon. Meaningly, there's no logic or system behind it that allows you to figure out what weapons to give someone. You're just gonna have to try every single type out on every character that you want to use.
You seem to be living in some sort of delusion that dictates that if something has a big enough following it's automatically good.
No ****. I did not know that, especially not since I just said that after the part you quoted. Captain obvious to the rescue.
Not really, they're just there.
It is? Which one?
I think that you forget that your opinion on what Suikoden is isn't a universal truth.
Yeah, the game based on the original novel that Genso Suikoden is based on is nothing like Suikoden. Great thinking there.
Are you..? No... forget it. Suikoden: Tenmei no Chikai is available for: MSX, NES, Playstation and Saturn. _________________ Prejudice is a great timesaver. It enables you to form opinions without bothering to get facts. |
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:12 pm Post subject: Re: Initial reaction in Japan | |
[quote="Raww":3b8yxbc3]No, that's what you read into his statement. |
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Fine, let's say it this way then. It strikes me as a generic average clichéed rpg.
As is stated in the linked review at no point in the game is this mentioned as a goal. The whole reassembling them seems to have been dropped along with people getting reincarnated as objects or other. Like always there are stars, a tablet and you can collect them, but the story doesn't really center on this.
Without spoiling it too much, [spoiler:mk3rlzyh]they do battle the One King, but he's not really king of anything. He's more of a deity thingie. Actually, if I understood the whole thing that might actually be his name.[/spoiler:mk3rlzyh]
*shrug* All I'm saying is that if all you need to consider a game to be Suikoden in the way we know it is for it to have 108 SoDs then there's a lot of games that fit the bill. Wheter they're actually good or even popular isn't important. _________________ Prejudice is a great timesaver. It enables you to form opinions without bothering to get facts. |
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:32 am Post subject: Re: Initial reaction in Japan | |
[quote="Raww Le Klueze":1dhnx2vd]As is stated in the linked review at no point in the game is this mentioned as a goal. The whole reassembling them seems to have been dropped along with people getting reincarnated as objects or other.
Like always there are stars, a tablet and you can collect them, but the story doesn't really center on this. |
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:13 pm Post subject: Re: Initial reaction in Japan | |
[quote="Sami":3rxa092q]Actually Suikoden has always been pretty vague about this, especially 1 and 3. It's hinted there might be something good to collecting all the 108, but it's never very actively encouraged. It's an additional bonus. |
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:09 pm Post subject: | |||
ugh....I had some kinda long thing typed up with my "first impressions" of the game.
(Long story short...I asked my dad to pick me up a copy when he was overseas during chinese new year and he came back not last...but two Sundays ago.....but after a few days procrastination I finally tried it....though as of now....I've only played 3-4 hours of it so far...) ....but it seems the thing I typed up....well....up and disappeared...along with my memory of what I typed... .____. though I have one thing to comment in that preview article that's linked a few posts up: ((I'll put it in spoiler tags...just in case I blurt out a spoiler? =x )) [spoiler:3af64c06]The preview "article" noted:
ok....so....I may only be 3-4 hours into the game.....but seeing that you can "try things out" in stores before you buy them, I don't know why the author thinks it's confusing. Plus, as far as I can tell, the starting characters (I only have 3 of them with me right now...the fourth one ran off somewhere so I don't know about him) as far as I've experimented CAN equip different types of weapons ie: Main character's default is a staff, Jade's are knuckle-types, and Marika's are bows.....but you can make all 3 of them use different weapon-types....this can open up some potential interesting strategy (maybe?) cuz bows can attack from back row but the other two can't....etc. As for other character's I have had join my party...They are currently unable to swap their weapons... But then again....I have technically not yet "permanently recruited them" quite yet....so I am unclear whether the above will be true for them or not.[/spoiler:3af64c06] ERm.....as far as if the game is "going to be a hit" over here or not...... At this point....I think It will have to strongly depend on how the plot is presented....xD ....I can't read Japanese and my hearing is limited....but it seems like the way it introduces the "Thousand Worlds" seems interesting....if the translation doesn't kill it.... Because other than that...the battle system in general doesn't seem anything special...or you know..."innovative" in today's generation of games...and probably won't catch the attention of anyone who's "new and/or rather new" to the series....if you know what I mean... ((But again...I'm only 3-4 hours in xp )) _________________ |
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