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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:04 am Post subject: Do Jowy really love Jillia? |
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Okay, I know it seems strange...(if anyone had better titles, change it. I don't know what better to name this thread)
So here it is my view about the two relationship:
First, Jowy did have a crush with Jillia when he's young, but did he still love her after all this time? I mean, she's a princess, and don't you think he will give up to love her with that fact?
Second, Jowy married Jillia for politic reason. If he managed to kill Luca, who supposed to be the successor, and then he married the princess, he'll be the next king. That way, he could rule the country for the better, and made his best friends' life easier.
Third, he only think of her as a friend, a political wife. He also adopted Pilika, so at least he should act politely to Jillia due the fact she's a princess, his wife, and Pilika's adopted mother.
If anyone said he still love Jillia, I would love to read the reason, cuz I think he don't love her after all... _________________
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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:56 am Post subject: |
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at the very near end before the battle of beast rune, ya see the scene between jowy and jillia, ... as jillia turned away Jillia asked Jowy "If I were to die ... would you shed tears for me?" , but jowy said nothing..then she began to walk away - out of the room, then she had turned back around into his waiting arms. Jowy said "Please live, Jillia....", he said...Jillia saw right through Jowy and The boy from kyaro whose heart beat in sync with hers...
i was reading suikoden drama with the title of "Candle".. i cant remember the other things...then i posted it here...
my own opinion is..."I think jowy STILL love jillia.."
sorry for my wrong english, just correct my english if im wrong :[ _________________ "Uncle Jowy and Little Pilika"
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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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I think the fact that Jowy sacrificed a doll rather than the real Jillia shows that he cares. _________________
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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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TruePerception wrote: |
I think the fact that Jowy sacrificed a doll rather than the real Jillia shows that he cares. |
Or that he's merely not a completely heartless bastard? Maybe it's different for everyone else but I don't care about everyone I've never stabbed in the stomach with a knife. _________________ One day, I shall come back. Yes, we shall all come back. Until then, there must be no regrets, no tears, no anxieties. Just go forward in all your beliefs and prove to me that I am not mistaken in mine. |
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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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John Layfield wrote: |
Or that he's merely not a completely heartless bastard? Maybe it's different for everyone else but I don't care about everyone I've never stabbed in the stomach with a knife. |
It's good you spoke only for yourself there, I would've had to correct you. |
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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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Not as much as he loves Pilika. And martyrdom. Especially martyrdom. Obviously, he was just using Jillia as a means to achieve his goal of making a land safe for the childrens, or failing that, dying horribly and living on in legend as the evil tyrant defeated by a righteous girly boy in spandex and a tiara who is of indeterminate—but often speculated—relationship to Jowy himself.
Well, it's not like JJ had much on-screen interaction, anyway. |
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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:05 am Post subject: |
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Not as much as he loves Pilika. And martyrdom. Especially martyrdom. Obviously, he was just using Jillia as a means to achieve his goal of making a land safe for the childrens, or failing that, dying horribly and living on in legend as the evil tyrant defeated by a righteous girly boy in spandex and a tiara who is of indeterminate—but often speculated—relationship to Jowy himself.
Well, it's not like JJ had much on-screen interaction, anyway.
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As a self professed Jowy Atriedes/Blight fan I feel obligated to defend him. :P
On the issue of Pilika, of course he loves Pilika more. Ask nearly anyone who has had children and they will tell you that their children are the light in their lives and they love their kids over anybody else. Its obvious that Jowy views Pilika as his own daughter, and it is simply human nature to love your children above all else. The issue of how good of a father he was is of course in question, given that he sort of abandoned her for a period--but what can I say, many men are strange like that. It doesn't mean his love for her wasn't strong.
On the issue of martydom, I think he desired whatever it would take to make his dream a reality. Obviously later in the game he realized he could not win and Riou had acomplished what he couldn't. He also shrewdly recognized that if he or anyone in the Highland royal bloodline remained alive there would always be people loyal to the throne of Highland. He ended up being right: See rebellion, Higheast.
On the issue of whether or not he loved Jillia, I think he did. He doesn't come outright and say it, but I think if you take all the ancillary evidence and piece it together I think its pretty obvious. The scene near the end where they embrace each other, the fact that Jowy lied to Riou and the rest of the world about killing Jillia even though it would have been better for her to be dead according to Jowy's own ideals and the situation present at the time, the fact that he sent her to Harmonia with Pilika so that they would both be safe, etc. _________________
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:26 am Post subject: |
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Hmm...okay. I think I understand now. Anyway, thanks everyone *gives sushi to everyone* _________________
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:29 am Post subject: |
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I agree with Calvin-san ^^ I think Jowy does love Jillia, but he treasures Pillica and his friendship with Riou more than his love. I'm not really sure, but I think Jowy is a guy who don't think 'love' for a lover higher than love for his friend and family. Because you know, because of his REAL Family he wish to have a warm family (and find it in Riou, Nanami and Pillica) and because Pillica's parents have took care of him like a family, he want Pillica still feel that.. (pardon my bad English XD)
But I sure Jowy loves Jillia. but he know which one is more priority ^^ |
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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I 100% feel Jowy loves Jillia, and that she loves him. Jowy made the choice not to visit Jillia after the war, perhapes because he doesn't feel like he's good enough for her and wants her to live a happy life without him. :| _________________
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:25 am Post subject: Re: Do Jowy really love Jillia? |
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think Jowy does love Jillia _________________ Even if you kill me and defeat Highland, you won't have peace!!!! You'll have a defeated country screaming for our vengence!!!"
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:36 am Post subject: |
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jowy n jillia, best couple in sII (I think)
Jowy liked Jillia when he was small. He was truly falling over her back then. He might have forgotten her for long but who knows that they would ever meet again? |
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:14 am Post subject: |
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All Jowy wanted is to make the country a better place with minimum sacrifices at any point of decisions he made.
He may have her just to be able to take over Highland Kingdom and rule it for the better, but I think that he actually grew into her and eventually have feelings for her. |
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:07 am Post subject: |
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Jowy wanted to make highland better with minimal loss to lives. that is why i think he got Leon as his strategist. same mind set. as for him being in love with Jilia, i don't really think so. i mean he cares for her. deeply. if he was just a bastard then he would have just sacrificed her and be done with it. instead we have a doll stabbed and a house in holy harmonia for her and Pilika. if he really did love her he would have at least spoken to her after the game. but then that's just me |
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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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at the end of the game jilia is in harmonia,and if we go in the good ending we see him tring to visit her, he takes a look n her and then go back, he still love her and he want to protect her.
the reason he old her to go to harmonia that he knew that he will die and he don't want her to be hurt or something but he didn't know that riou had got all 108 sod and maked him revive(of course he will not know this) |
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