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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Even Cecile remembers when that ship crashed into Budehuc.

And good job pointing out the chopped limb part. I forgot about that.
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Uhm? sorry to condesend you Sarsadmin but Edgar had the rune than it killed him and went to Brandeau. You can find this when talking to Kika before the last fight when you have litlle sences with everyone.
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I always assumed that Edgar had the rune, I don't remember what was said in the memories of the rune, but something led me to believe that Edgar had it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Hmm..strange the rune even transfers to children, was Edgar even bad? kinda odd that most of the pirates in Suikoden were good, since not very many pirates were good.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

PirateSigurd wrote:
Hmm..strange the rune even transfers to children, was Edgar even bad? kinda odd that most of the pirates in Suikoden were good, since not very many pirates were good.


The run jumps to anyone nearby. If there's a kid, it'll attach to the kid. It's not selective, aside from it's bearers being humans.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Thought in the trailers of S4, Leknaat says the rune selects its own host, but yeah you're correct, but why didnt it tranfere to Hero4 at first? since he was there, Glenn just jumps aboard and he gets the rune, the must have shield the Hero43 for a reason, maybe it was because Glenn killed Brandeau, I guess..
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

i thought that elenor silverberg said something along the lines of 'he wasn't even there for his son when the boy died.' as well as saying something about cray allowing his son to die to gain some advantage *been awhile since i've seen that part, so it's not real clear.*

i just remember her mentioning this prior to attacking eal al and then her chat with him before the fort collapses.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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Thought in the trailers of S4, Leknaat says the rune selects its own host, but yeah you're correct, but why didnt it tranfere to Hero4 at first? since he was there, Glenn just jumps aboard and he gets the rune, the must have shield the Hero43 for a reason, maybe it was because Glenn killed Brandeau, I guess..

Hero4 was unconscious so he couldn't have the rune. It's in the book of unspoken bi-laws. You should look it up. Haha....

No but that's my assumption. He was on the verge of consciousness so the rune decided he wasn't the best host and jumped into Glen.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Well, Glenn was the closest to Brandeau when he died. So, I'm guessing that is why. I don't think it had anything to do with Hero 4 being unconscious. If that was the case, the Soul Eater would not have returned to Ted after the Fog Ship Guide was defeated, but that could also have some other issues to go along with it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Maybe the soul eater is less choosy than the rune of punishment?? No, this isn't a joke... Maybe the rune of punishment only selects people the it feels it can drain the life of, while the soul eater follows the will of its master, like how the rune was transferred to Ted by his grandfather, and then to Tir by Ted... Makes sense right?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I think the rune should have chosen Hero4 instead of Glen but i dont really know why it chose Glen i guess it was because he was close to it and maybe because he was stronger than hero4,at the time anyway.I like the idea of Rakgi's dad being the pirate who killed Edger it makes things make more sense.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I think the rune should have chosen Hero4 instead of Glen but i dont really know why it chose Glen i guess it was because he was close to it and maybe because he was stronger than hero4,at the time anyway.I like the idea of Rakgi's dad being the pirate who killed Edger it makes things make more sense.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I'm thinking it goes something along these lines.

Queen of obel==>??? pirate==>???==>Graham Cray==> Cray's Son==>???==>Rakgis dad==>Brandeau==>Glen==>Hero4

Suikoden Tactics may explain more, since it appears to have Edgar in action in the pre-S4 part. I think the hero surviving his uses has at least something to do with his mom being in the Rune. His first use, knocking down the Boss Crab's defenses wouldn't take much energy, but leveling even part of that Kooluk fleet should have killed him, if Glen is any comparison.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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Queen of obel==>??? pirate==>???==>Graham Cray==> Cray's Son==>???==>Rakgis dad==>Brandeau==>Glen==>Hero4


yes that should be about it it makes enough sense,and yes suikoden tactics should explain more.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

hmmmm...i think brandeau is Rakgi's Dad....and the one who kill edgar is Cray Father...??
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