When people die in Suikoden

Kobold · Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 7:08 am Post subject:

But the thing is, even if it's just Riou not wanting to see the body, fine, that can be accepted. But people like Eilie, Rina, Bolgan, Flik, Viktor who have also developed a friendship with Nanami throughout the war. They were outside with Riou as well while waiting for news from Huan, and they too were upset about her death. So no one else bothers about her body at all after she is announced dead?

Huan can simply call Shu in right away and allow them to talk while the people outside just "Oh... She dead... Sad.. Lets go" And leave the place like that? Really... It's unrealistic...
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unknown · Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 7:24 am Post subject:

heh if you ask me they felt more angry for revenge to end the war rather to greve the death of a valued friend. At times of war sometimes you have to kill the feeling like loss to be strong enough to face the challenge ahead. I think instead of takeing the time to have a funeral they would rather put her with the rest of the toops that died in the war. I think it was strange however for riou not to go in with Shu after Hauns reqest to see her one last time but he dose faint. Thinking about it I'd prolly faint knowing somebody iloved died in front of me not being able to help her. so I think there is a good and bad point to the scene but it shows a little insight of true war....

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Kobold · Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 7:31 am Post subject:

Basically, i'm just not happy about Konami's unrealisticism of making Shu walk in and have the conversation with Nanami right away on the spot. It's just not right...
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Rheo · Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 9:51 pm Post subject:

Ok, imagine yourself in that situation. The doctor just came out and told you and you good friend that his sister just passed away. And then the doctor went back into the room, your good friend just stood outside the room dumbfounded. Would the first thing you do a. stay with your friend or b. rush in to see the body? I think most people would stay outside of the room.

Like I said, most people would not ask to see the body, they usually go see the body when they are offered the chance, or if the situation set up for them to view the body. Plus, if Riou doesnt go in to see the body first, if Riou said no when the others "Do you want to go in and see your sister?", I dont think the others would feel proper to ask "Then can I go in and see your sister's body?" The only other person you would ask in this situation would probably be the doctor, but Huan is inside of the room, its not really right to burst into the room. Besides, everybody is too shocked and saddened/angered at that time anyway. My interpretation of that scene is, everyone is standing outside of the room too busy getting confused and shocked, and then Huan whispered to Shu and asked him to come inside the room quietly.

Maybe after a few days, when the grief wears off a little, the other would want to see the body. But that already gave Shu a few days to plan some cover up, and they are probably too busy with the war to do anything at that time. They are having a war, so it might not be so strange that a funeral is rushed.
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Aurelien · Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 11:28 pm Post subject:

Excellent reply, Rheo. That made sense a lot to me. Most people don't see the body until some time has passed unless they were there in the same room with the body in the first place.
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Kobold · Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 3:48 am Post subject:

Ok fine.. With Rheo's explanation, i'm forced to accept it.

Still, i feel that Konami could have put in more effort to make that part slightly more realistic by showing more than just Huan coming out to announce, and asking Shu in while Riou faints and scene over. Yeah...
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Aurelien · Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 4:38 am Post subject:

I agree, in fact I remember that I used to think that it was unrealistic to happen that way. But now I feel like it's possible for the situation to be realistic though not *that* realistic exactly like in real life. But that's why it's a game, it's not meant to be exactly like in real life, but only almost like in real life.
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Phil the Great · Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 6:28 am Post subject:

Its A Catapult · Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 6:38 am Post subject:

maybe it's a cultural thing. Hugo and Sgt. Joe clearly buries Lulu and they have a grave for not only him, but the other dead Karayans.

Genkaku's grave is in his backyard.

We've seen cemetaries in Suikoden 1.

Also we've seen Jimba and Glen both fade away after they lose their rune.

I think it just comes down to more Konami inconsistency and thinking noone would care or notice either way.

Ray Grievous · Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 10:25 am Post subject:

I think they'd have been satisfied to see her body at the funeral.

However, since she didn't actually die as such, there was none.

About the guy who died and disappeared... Well, think of it from a ComputerGame designer's point of view. It's much more economical to have unused mobs just vanish. It played the 'dying' animation, and his purpose was over, so to speak.

That's just my thoughts, though.

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Miss Viki · Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 6:47 am Post subject:

Hmm...when people die in Suiko (especially Odessa+Luc)
I cry (especially for Odessa+Luc)
but not for the soldier he2x
maybe like the citizen of muse,Gremio,Jimba,Glen,Walter,Brendeu,etc...

Ray Grievous · Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 4:49 pm Post subject:

Just replayed Suikoden II.

When the Muse guy dies, he dies and is absorbed by the beast rune (or dies FROM being absorbed.)

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Ron Gian · Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:54 am Post subject:

Isn't it an irony to expect a FANTASY GAME to have somewhat REALISTIC DEATH??? It's a game guys! Just a game!
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