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I would have to say that a console or portable system has already been chosen for the series if it has been in development all this time. Quite some time ago right after V was released in Japan there was already indication that some sort of sequel was in the very early stages of development (plot, characters, setting along with a discussion of what console and so forth). By now they have to have started making the game. The only way I see other wise is a hold on the project or projects if they are making more than one.
The series is very doubtfully dead considering it's the only foot hold Konami has in the RPG market at the moment. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Suikoden is no "console-pushing title" like Final Fantasy, so Konami would want to release it on a console that purveyors of RPGs buy. |
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Right now there are not that many RPGs out for the ps3 --
I wanted to play an RPG on my ps3 but there was nothing out for the ps3 so I had to buy one for the ps2. |
Hmm...
Just release Suikoden VI on Wii already, Konami! That way you will get certain data on how Suikoden performs on Wii!
Dragon Quest Swords for Wii sold some 500,000 units in Japan in summer. That's a lot of hardcore RPG players, about 1 in every 6 of Wii owners in Japan back then.
If even 1/3 of these people would buy Suikoden VI on Wii, it would already reach Suikoden V's sales. What's more, next year at the same time the amount of Wiis will pretty much have doubled, so it will have a userbase of at least 6 million in Japan, hungry for more RPGs after DQS, Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn, Opoona by Koei, Tales of Symphonia: Knight of Ratatosk, Final Fantasy CC: Crystal Bearers and others.
Even a spinoff Suikoden would be nice if they released something like Suikogaiden 3 with Wii pointer controls to test out the waters so to say. |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:10 am Post subject: |
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| Sami wrote: |
| Vextor wrote: |
| Suikoden is no "console-pushing title" like Final Fantasy, so Konami would want to release it on a console that purveyors of RPGs buy. |
| Failure_Urn wrote: |
Right now there are not that many RPGs out for the ps3 --
I wanted to play an RPG on my ps3 but there was nothing out for the ps3 so I had to buy one for the ps2. |
Hmm...
Just release Suikoden VI on Wii already, Konami! That way you will get certain data on how Suikoden performs on Wii!
Dragon Quest Swords for Wii sold some 500,000 units in Japan in summer. That's a lot of hardcore RPG players, about 1 in every 6 of Wii owners in Japan back then.
If even 1/3 of these people would buy Suikoden VI on Wii, it would already reach Suikoden V's sales. What's more, next year at the same time the amount of Wiis will pretty much have doubled, so it will have a userbase of at least 6 million in Japan, hungry for more RPGs after DQS, Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn, Opoona by Koei, Tales of Symphonia: Knight of Ratatosk, Final Fantasy CC: Crystal Bearers and others.
Even a spinoff Suikoden would be nice if they released something like Suikogaiden 3 with Wii pointer controls to test out the waters so to say. |
I wasn't aware of those numbers until you posted them for us, Sami. I've got to say, reading that really does lend credence to a jump to Nintendo. Of course, you may remember that I fully support a PS2/Wii dual release for Suikoden VI, as a safety-net for Konami, in case they're feeling skittish (which I wouldn't doubt).
Critics of Suikoden to the Wii often point out that it's not an ideal game for use of the Wii-mote. I argue that the motion sensors can still be utilized, particularly in mini-games, and perhaps tactical war combat. In the end, I just pray that the decision Konami ultimately makes is the correct one for the franchise. |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:19 am Post subject: |
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I'd also like to point out that, at least to my knowledge and how much I've played of it, Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn doesn't really use the motion sensors either. It works like a normal controller.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:33 am Post subject: |
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| I don't see any reason why Konami wouldn't want to release Suikoden VI for the Wii. Its far and away the most popular system and that isn't going to change any time soon. |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:04 am Post subject: |
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| Hasn't there been an action RPG and a normal RPG announced for the wii a while back. Both are unnamed at the moment but they could be suikoden titles. There is also an RPG announced for the PS3 if I remember correctly. |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Oh yes, there is!
However, not all announced games always make it to final stage. For example, Konami cancelled a Coded Arms game for PS3 that was announced in the same batch as those RPGs. Konami apparently has also cancelled Vandal Hearts DS which was announced in 2004, because there has been no news about the game since then.
Hoping there will be more info on those "unnamed RPGs" soon. Next target: Konami Gamer's Day 2008! There will be a new KGD right? |
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If Suikoden VI is released, I think it'll be pretty interesting to find out whether Konami actually stays loyal to the Playstation consoles in the RPG market.
Something tells me they will, but it's hard to say at this point. |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 5:40 am Post subject: |
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| ITs december already.....From what i remeber someone told me that a game convention is to be held this december, so what happned there? |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:01 am Post subject: |
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I don't think the main reason for Konami's silence on the development of future Suikodens is because of the console wars.
I would like to think that, Konami probably had high hopes for Suikoden V, considering Suikoden V is the Suikoden that most closely resembles Suikoden 2, which is often considered the best game in the series. However, the low sales of Suikoden V signify that there is a bigger problem to the series. Konami realized that they are not going to win new fans (or even win the old fans back) just by making a new Suikoden that is of some semblance to Suikoden 1 or 2.
Clearly, even though Suikoden V is quite good, I cannot help but feel that Suikoden V should just have always been the true sequel to Suikoden 2. (Doesn't anyone feel that Konami seems to have been experimenting with the Suikoden series ever since S3?)
I think Konami is probably still in the midst of trying out something really new and really innovative in order to revive the Suikoden series. Therefore we just gotta be patient.... Meanwhile I am just going to save up some money and buy whichever next-gen console Suikoden VI is gonna be on, when the game is finally announced.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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| For being critically the better game, Suikoden V did sell less than Suikoden IV after all. |
That was in the West. In Japan, they rated pretty much the same, which I think is fair and corresponds with my own opinion.
Lately, there have been a huge number of RPG announcements for the DS, from Valkyrie Profile to World Destruction (some Xenogears team members) to Square Enix's murder mystery RPG. All this made me think that perhaps even Konami could step up to release Suikoden VI on the DS. Looking at existing DS RPGs like Final Fantasy XII Revenant Wings and Final Fantasy CC Ring of Fates, Suikoden VI could be very impressive on the DS, and with such a RPG-heavy console, Suikoden VI would be right at home on the platform. |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Sami wrote: |
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| For being critically the better game, Suikoden V did sell less than Suikoden IV after all. |
That was in the West. In Japan, they rated pretty much the same, which I think is fair and corresponds with my own opinion.
Lately, there have been a huge number of RPG announcements for the DS, from Valkyrie Profile to World Destruction (some Xenogears team members) to Square Enix's murder mystery RPG. All this made me think that perhaps even Konami could step up to release Suikoden VI on the DS. Looking at existing DS RPGs like Final Fantasy XII Revenant Wings and Final Fantasy CC Ring of Fates, Suikoden VI could be very impressive on the DS, and with such a RPG-heavy console, Suikoden VI would be right at home on the platform. |
If that happens the series is dead to me. I don't like hand held consoles and I don't plan on owning one, ever.
I really, really hope that never happens.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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Suikoden 6 on handheld? They could make a spinoff like Suikoden Card Stories (GBA) or Suikoden 1&2 (PSP) but I don't think they're bold enough to make the whole series end up on the handhelds
And I think those are pretty bad examples...Final Fantasy has reached the point of being like a brand name that they'd still be in the positive no matter how they release a game
and World Destruction isn't a series yet...they can risk the venture...
(I don't know much about VP's release history so I can't comment on that)
but the issue here is to retain the greatest number of fans as possible...and jumping straight to the handheld doesn't seem like a bright idea....ESPECIALLY since Card Stories and Suiko1&2 (PSP) never was successful enough to leave Japan's shores.
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