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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:49 am Post subject: Viki, Nash and Twilight Forest Ruins |
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I havn't played Suikoden V for a while and I'm not sure why my copy is since I moved house, but I wondered if someone could confirm or deny this. I was idly passing through Wikipedia the other day and I noticed this entry:
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Additionally, in Suikoden V, she suddenly appears within the Twilight Forest Ruins along with Nash Latkje, breaking a hole through the ruins’ roof because of an accidental transportation (which serves to free Lorelai and Killey from a booby trap). Viki and her companion both disappear shortly thereafter. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recurring_characters_in_Suikoden
Is that true? I'm sure curious is all.
Would that have been during the Suikogaiden story that Viki would've accidently teleported Nash and Co into Falena? _________________
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:55 am Post subject: |
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I've run the Suikogaiden's through my head, and I can't remember anything along the lines of Viki teleporting in with Nash. And actually, they're wrong on the freeing Lorelai and Killey part as well. It was only Lorelai that was caught by the traps. Probably needs to be edited with the correct stuff.
Though if someone wants to look through the Gaiden pics at Suikosource to confirm since it's been awhile since I played. But yeah, just a quick glance over the person who wrote it doesn't seem to be all that reliable. _________________ Be awed by our prowess!
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:33 am Post subject: |
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I was refering to Nash being teleported, not about Lorelai. Probably why I didn't find that topic ^_^ _________________
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:47 am Post subject: |
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Argh, I deleted the post because I still do not find any conclusive answer in the other topic and then you gave a reply, Axiose. It would be very confusing to the readers... In any case, this is the link.
http://www.suikox.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=236606
Well, there is an event concerning Young Lorelai and Killey in Suikogaiden. Considering that the (not so) enlightening pictures also include Gadget, and that the game is strictly told with Nash's point of view, I think it is safe to assume that Nash is also there with Viki in the Twilight Ruins.
[EDIT: and lo! Yet another person posted when I was mingling with the posting system. I should probably hasten my typing speed...] _________________
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 5:10 am Post subject: |
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Oh ho! I -was- wrong! I don't remember that part at all! That's awesome! I guess it's time for a replay, or at least a look through the old pictures.
Though I could have sworn Lorelai said she was alone when Viki crashed in on her.
Now this begs the question, how come Lorelai didn't know Meg, Gadget and Millie (with her retarded little pet) in Suikoden II! Or Viki in Suikoden I and II for that matter... (Obviously both the Gaidens and V happened after II and that's why but it's still fun to speculate! If they ever re-re-make Suikoden I-II they should add in that extra dialog!) _________________ Be awed by our prowess!
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 5:29 am Post subject: |
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Hahaha, that picture of Gadget and Loreli cracks me up :D. On the topic of why the two don't recognize them well....um...they could have forgotten the...uh, Robot Barrel, cause those are kind of common, and definatly the strange girl with the, um, weird slug monster pet with a french name. yeah.
Hm, well, how did the event happen before Suikoden V? didn't the time table of the suikogaidens run close to the time table of Suikoden II? Did Viki take them back into the past then? And why wasn't this mentioned at all during Suikoden V? That would have been a prime place to say something about Viki/Robot/Bonepart strangeness and tie the series togeather a little. Stupid Konami, it's stuff like this that makes us crazy fans go out and wildly speculate on all the possibilities, I think they do stuff like this on purpose. _________________
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 5:40 am Post subject: |
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That's great, Hawk. I remember seeing those pictures before. That's kinda neat how it was tied together lke that.
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Obviously both the Gaidens and V happened after II |
Suikoden V is set way before Sukoden I isn't it, Milan? Or were you joking? _________________
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:06 am Post subject: |
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Onimaru, Viki teleports through time between the games and also during Suikogaiden Vol. 2. And there were a few scenes mentioning Lorelai being freed by Viki in Suikoden V. Lorelai is pissed because Viki doesn't remember it, though for Viki it hasn't happened yet.
Viki's timeline is a bit iffy. What we know for sure is:
Suikoden V -> Suikoden I -> Suikoden II -> Suikogaiden Vol. 2 (Viki teleports both forward and back in time here) -> Suikoden III
Suikoden V definitely takes place before I, II and Suikogaiden Vol. 2 because Viki doesn't yet know Lorelai. Whether Viki went directly from V to I is unsure, our only clue is Viki saying "Say, where are we? The Empire? Which one? My goodness, almost the other side." when she appears in Suikoden I. Richmond's investigations of Viki in SII reveal that she's just left SI's victory feast and Suikogaiden Vol. 2 reveals that Viki has teleported from SII's victory feast 3 months before. Finally, Viki knows Luc in Suikoden III.
Then there's a few possibilities of where IV fits in. The only clues are that Viki feels she's bathed with Jeane before and that she feels she's seen the Ghost Ship before. |
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:34 am Post subject: |
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Which could mean that the next Suikoden could take place before V. If not the comment box about Jeane would not be correct. _________________ If anybody asks about the avatar, I did it for Jess. |
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:36 am Post subject: |
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Lorelai mentions knowing Viki in Suikoden V, but when she brings it up with Viki, Viki doesn't remember. I think this was relayed to the player in a comment box message by Lorelai but I cannot be sure.
Viki is a confusing character; even if she has met a character before, there is still a good chance she won't remember them. She's usually ignorant of her surroundings. Remember that Young Viki in Suikoden 3 acted like she had met the new Flame Champion (whoever you choose to bear the True Fire Rune) and when she gives you the Blinking Mirror she says something along the lines of "here, you can have this back" even though it's the first time you're getting it.
Confusing mess... _________________
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Axiose wrote: |
Suikoden V is set way before Sukoden I isn't it, Milan? |
I was told that Suikoden V takes place 15 years before Suikoden I. _________________ The immortal chickens shall rule the world!! |
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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Suikoden V takes place six years before Suikoden I and eleven years before Suikoden II. |
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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Eh? Suikoden V is six years before Suikoden and 12 years before Suikoden II. The Gate Rune Wars take three years to play out, and then another three years before the Unicorn Brigade incident.
6+3+3 = 12 |
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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My bad. I misremembered. _________________ The immortal chickens shall rule the world!! |
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