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fuji
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 10:16 am Post subject: |
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Loyalty percentage increased. _________________ ______ "We're still flying"
___ "That's not much"
"It's enough" |
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Ujitsuna
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 10:52 am Post subject: |
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Has it been decided whether this feature effects old Mercenaries or not? |
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Axiose
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 11:30 am Post subject: |
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I believe it does. It effects all "nation" groups, and mercenary, while not a nation in terms of Suikox, is a nation in terms of how the database works.
Though I could be wrong. _________________
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Ujitsuna
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 11:35 am Post subject: |
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fuji wrote: |
I am currently debating whether mercs will be subject to this. I had planned to let all mercs join their first nation for free. We shall see. |
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fuji
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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Watch for a post in the mercenary forum. I will make it as soon as I can. Just have a few things I need to take care of first. _________________ ______ "We're still flying"
___ "That's not much"
"It's enough" |
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eXistence of Fly
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:21 am Post subject: |
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Since Wanderers and Mercenaries are kind of different would this affect both parties (since unlike Mercs Wanderers aren't really in a "nation" situation) because atm I'm seeing quite the opposite without an actual subscription to a nation (pending merc and no nation = way inflated stats, namely 70 odd levels). So if this is the case, then slight oversight or manual adjustment needed? _________________
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Axiose
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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I don't understand what you mean about levels.
Wanderers shouldn't be effected, because loyalty only effects leaving a nation. You can't leave being a wanderer in the eyes of the database as there's nothing there.
Loyalty isn't effected by what nation (or pseudo-nation) you join, but by what you've just left. _________________
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Aurelien
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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Axiose, what he meant is that when someone leaves a nation, they would become a Wanderer before they joined Mercenary or another nation. And during that short time that they were wanderers, the Karma was inflated (fly's Karma was up to 8000s before fixed).
Not sure if it was fully fixed by fuji or not. But yeah, that's what fly meant. _________________
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Axiose
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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Ah right, I'm with you now as at the time I read Fly's message, I saw nothing out of the ordinary with his stats. _________________
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Crono
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, hey, I knew staying in one nation for three years would pay off! xD _________________ "Into battle we ride
With gods by our side
We are strong, and not afraid to die
We have an urge to kill
And our lust for blood has to be fulfilled
We'll fight 'till the end, and send our enemies straight to hell!" |
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fuji
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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It was a typo in the formulae when I last edited it. I fixed it and your stats are back to normal. _________________ ______ "We're still flying"
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eXistence of Fly
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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Axiose wrote: |
Ah right, I'm with you now as at the time I read Fly's message, I saw nothing out of the ordinary with his stats. |
Yeah it only lasted about 30mins since I left roughly when fuji was online and then posted what I said above to make note of it for fixing, if Decado hasn't edited his post my inflated stats should still be in the who's online thread, so comparison wise between the inflated and now you can see why I was wtfing. :P
A thought I had in the shower too (don't ask, feel privileged instead) how would this effect the whole friend invite scheme where if you invited someone they were put in your home nation despite being in other nations? I take it this would then need some sort of manual adjustment where the loyalty modifier doesn't affect them (because it would as they leave said nation for friends nation thus incurring the loss) since it would kinda defeat the purpose of the friend scheme. _________________
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Seraphblade
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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Well, the person would start off with zero karma and loyalty will have no effect on it. Unless, it skyrockets to 8,000 something, then I guess it can be fixed by an admin. |
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eXistence of Fly
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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Seraphblade wrote: |
Well, the person would start off with zero karma and loyalty will have no effect on it. Unless, it skyrockets to 8,000 something, then I guess it can be fixed by an admin. |
Thats assuming that there's a base minimum where loyalty doesn't affect a person at all, and fuji fixed the inflation thing. From what i read loyalty would still hit the person just that no one would notice much change at all, whereas the point if it does is that it shouldn't since it's not leaving a nation as most people would. _________________
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Yvl
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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Fly, I think that the invite a friend thing is done by the admins themselves, so the user doesnt actually leave the usergroup, or something to that effect. _________________
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