If I create a suikoden fan game...

Dilber Novum · Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:24 am Post subject:

I would play it, AND I would help the creator of that Suikoden Fan game by sharing my ideas with him / her.

Here are some of my thoughts

Recruitment and entertainment

-Knight tournament we all know with armored horses, lances etc. During this event we can see who is our friend and who is our enemy => oppurtunity to recruit SoD. After getting the HQ and recruiting a certain SoD => knight fighting tournaments in our own HQ :) Arena, or classical style or both. The main hero CAN participate OR he can lay back and watch, betting and winning money.

-Martial Arts fighting tournament somewhere in the countryside of that Realm. Same thing like I discribed above. The hero wins the tournament and is able to recruit some SoD and also recognize new enemies. Then the same as above: after recruiting a certain SoD => martial arts fighting tournaments in our own HQ. Hero can participate or just laying back and watching. Good Prizes, money and all that sort of things.

-Casino Event in the capital city of the country. The high society gathers there for a tournament. Chinchirorin, Pon, Egbert's Game, Memory etc. Hero goes there dressed like a noble gentleman and wins the tournament. Then the same here like above. During that event we will see who's our friend and who will be our enemy. After recruiting the organizer we should be able to make an Casino event in our HQ with all minigames we know in Suikoden. Money, good prizes etc.

-Criminals, thieves, mercenaries etc. I also want to go undercover to see what's going on in the underworld of the country. I want to commit some crimes for getting some SoD. Like smuggling forbidden wares, robbery and that sort of things. I also want more corruption in the high society.

-Cook off!!! Any Questions?

-Fishing Tournament. My taste is a mix between net fishing and the fishing battle we used to see in Suikoden 5. The real big fish brings a lot of ponts => prizes, money blah blah.

-Hunting competition. Well.... We have in every Suikoden game archers and hunters. Same thing I discribed above. First an story event for possible recruitments and later in our own HQ.

This is what I would do to make the Suikoden Fans happy!!!

Yours Dilber
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ferrouslupusrex · Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:24 am Post subject:

Get ready for release of chapter 1 possibly this very weekend. Just doing a last minute bug tests while I try to find time to enroll for another sem of law school. Thanks for the interest.
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Dilber Novum · Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:44 am Post subject:

I really look forward to get in in my hands lad :) keep up the work and post from time to time some screenshots ok? :)
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ferrouslupusrex · Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:45 am Post subject:

So sorry about the delay. I got caught up in enrollment and I just recently discovered that at a certain point in the game the save file gets glitched. I still have to check what's causing the variables to screw up. I just might rethink of another file saving algorithm. Once again, I do apologize. I guess I can finally relate to the professional testers/developers in this respect. :|

Anyways, I promise I will find the time to release this at the soonest. I hope it'll probably by december or possibly next week if I can help it. Iff I find the time, I might incorporate tourneys to the whole shebang. Heck, possibly a fishing and hunting game as well.

If I cant release the game by December that means I have already been swamped by responsibilities that I need to attend to.

--------- Deadline: December ------
Possible improvements: Fishing, Hunting, Tourneys, Additional hour(s) of game play.
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Falcon Critical · Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:24 pm Post subject:

No worries ferro, take your time to work out the bugs - lets face it, its not like Suikoden 6 is likely to come out anytime soon so you've got a monopoly on the market :P
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Sniper_Zegai · Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:35 am Post subject:

To be honest. I love the idea, the problem is most people who start these projects never finish them, but if this game sees the light of day. I'll be sure to give it a bash.
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Finfreeze · Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:34 pm Post subject:

Hm...Looks interesting. Not much to go on right now, though, beyond Keynes's profile. Having said that, I am willing to give it a try. What's the point of a game if it's not played, after all? (Don't answer that.)

Dilber Novum · Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 3:35 am Post subject:

A love story would be nice. AND, you all remember the private actions in Star Oceans right? In the Suikoden Fan Game would it be a good feature as well :) So we can learn more about our friends :)
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Acheron · Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 4:31 am Post subject:

What I read of your plot synopsis, I wouldn't play your game. I can't see a good way to just start moving runes affiliated with national culture around without causing gaping plot holes, something I have a terrible time overlooking. I will play your game if it's not too big a download because you are a member of the community and have invested so much into it and for that alone you deserve congratulations. The best way I know to do that would be to play your game.

Now what I would really like to see is a Gaiden-esque game based on the story of the Flame Champion in the First Fire Bringer War. That would be real bad ass. Right there you've got 3 True Runes, Sindar Mystery, Wars, easy to explain random encounters (they're bandito's!) and enough of an outline to have a good plot but having enough unknown from the games to use artistic creativity. And FC is badass. You could even use some of the artwork from the games, too, as a start. Than I'm sure if you asked you could pull in help from some of the more experienced artists here for portrait designs. That could add a lot to the feel of "Your Suikoden" and you would be able to pull on others as a resource and devote you expertise to creating a good game with fluid gameplay.

Least, that's what I would want to see.

shikator · Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 6:43 am Post subject:

wow, I hope this comes out next week im realy exited dosent realy matter how good it is so long as it has something suikoden on it.

Dilber Novum · Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:20 am Post subject:

When Ideas are needed I will help as good as I can. Just yell :)
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ferrouslupusrex · Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:53 am Post subject:

Lol. You guys got some of the plot spot on. There will be romance that goes a long way (pushing the envelope to the edge of the table to the shredding machine so to speak). From 2 continents (all made up and original) and the very root of it would usher some of the later chapters by it's lonesome. And no, it's not the main character that's in the whole love plot mainly because there is no ONE main character (hint they are side characters with great import, have fun guessing on the hints abounding in chapter 1). There will be a new main character each chapter until the end where most of the SODs will convene to finally settle where their place is in the world.

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Now, let me rant a bit: Let's just say I'll show you true evil in 2d and not because of mere "hahas" like that nerd kefka did or sephiroths angst. Every thing about evil will be explored heck I am sure you'd love the ending for chapter 1.

The One thing that bothers me is that I'm building cultures from my little graphic editing application. I wish I can do more like add more face protraits and full image screens to flesh out the distinctness of each culture but I'll make do with what I can. As a result of my poor graphic skill expect some of the backgrounds to be flat and wanting. Don't blame me because I truly suck at drawing.

I'm thinking of ripping some sound tracks from movies and including them in the later chapters because they truly add to the feel of the story. For example the movie 54th massachusets has a wonderful theme to it. The sound is great and tragic. Lovely.

If all goes well, All will be revealed according to how I want it to be (of course I'll be basing it to some of the facts that we have gathered and knew of from the TRUE suikoden games). Some liberties with the existing (S1-S5) bearers and their runes would be made of course but none that are not within the realm of possiblity because I'll be basing it on their characterizations (besides most would be a costume change as befit their change in status). There is only one drastic change regarding a bearer but I felt it was justified.
*hint let's just say I and a few others feel strongly that this was always his nature.

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Update: Just fixed the bug but I encountered another 'new' problem. My tile sets are a mess. I may have to reread some of the scripts and determine where I made my mistake but aside from this not much else. And oh, I also improved on the mountains that border the countries (hint hint nudge nudge). I also added ice floes and bergs to justify certain borders.
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I hope next week I would be able to finally release it but I'll cross my fingers and toes just the same :*laugh*: Good evening/morning you goons.
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Wolfheart · Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:44 am Post subject:

I would give it a go as well.
Although I agree that not everybody has the time to play random stuff, it's not fair to diss your game for some pre-made reason like "fan stuff is crap so yours will be".

Anything Suikoden can be interesting - if only to have a peek at your perception of things! And yes, your project looks interesting and you seem to know what you're doing, not just a whim.
I'll be happy to try it out when you release it, and give you some feedback!
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shikator · Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:25 pm Post subject:

Sniper_Zegai · Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:55 am Post subject:

ferrouslupusrex, I'll be looking forward to the release. If it got graphics as good as Suikoden 2; I'll be more than happy that game was beautiful, all these whippersnappers dont appreciate rock solid 2D when they see it.
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