Soul eater?

peeps · Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:39 am Post subject: Soul eater?

can the soul eater consumes a person' s life that has a true rune? I'm just curious about it.

Benit149 · Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 10:51 am Post subject:

I'm not sure myself. The only one I can guarantee is the bearer of the Sovereign Rune, since that rune cancels out the effects of other runes. If I were to take an honest guess, I'd say that it wouldn't be possible because the other True Rune would fight with the Soul Eater for the bearer's life, since it chose the person and won't let go until it wants to or it gets passed on.
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Alterus · Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:07 am Post subject:

I think that if Soul Eater or Punishment Rune tries to consume the life of a character with a True Rune, it will cause many cataclysms in the entire world and the bearer of the two may become a Juggernaut without his will...

Beecham · Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:08 am Post subject:

Wouldn't it then depend on the strengths of wills between the respective bearers? I mean, say the Bearer of the Soul Eater was a millenia old and he tried to consume the life of the Bearer of the True Rune of Cheese, who got said True Rune yesterday. I dunno, I think the Soul Eater would win.

But maybe that's just cause the True Rune of Cheese sucks. Who knows.

You get my point though, I'm sure.

Alterus · Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:45 am Post subject:

Misunderstood... I thought the question was about a single person with both SE, which consumes his life, and a True Rune. If it's about consuming the soul of another creature possesing True Rune, then I think I agree with you Harukaze - it does depend on the strength of the will AND the power of Rune - the True Fire Rune's bearer, for example, may be consumed, while Leknaat or Windy with the Gate Rune, Heroes 1-4, Jowy, Ted may not.

Tonberry · Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:39 pm Post subject:

I doubt that that is possible. I would guess that the rune would protect them like when the true fire rune protected your flame champ from Luc right after the dragon fight in III. I think the true rune of the person to be consumed would have to be removed beforehand.

What would the True Cheese rune do anyway?

1. Gouda Grudge
2. Cheddar Charge
3. Swiss Storm
4. Blue Barrage :lol:

Benit149 · Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:25 pm Post subject:

That would make an excellent True Rune for Chiepoo. 8)

But I agree with Grudge about needing the True Rune removed before the person's soul can be consumed.
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Milan Fiori · Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 10:22 pm Post subject:

But it wasn't the true fire rune that protected the Huge/Chris/Geddeo from The Bishop, it was the spirit of the former FC.
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Beecham · Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:19 pm Post subject:

Exactly. Also note that Luc's Rune isn't the Soul Eater, so the example is somewhat skewed.

Tonberry · Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:48 pm Post subject:

Both of you have good points. (Milan Fiori and Harukaze) I still think what I said above though. It can't really be known how that would have to happen.

Yes Benit149, I was thinking the same thing. Perfect for Chiepoo!

ed_20 · Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:02 am Post subject:

I think peeps trying to say Is "what if the holder of the true rune of punishment becomes close with the holder of the soul eater will the souleater consume the holder of the true rune of punishment?"

Beecham · Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:10 am Post subject:

Then it goes back to experience and willpower. It would be one hell of a contest, that much is for certain.

Milan Fiori · Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:32 pm Post subject:

The more I play Suikoden 1 the more I think that the Soul Eater doesn't cause the death of the people closest to you but instead just takes thier souls after they die. Which if you think about it isn't that bad of a curse cause you'll always have the people you care about close to you.
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Beecham · Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 1:17 pm Post subject:

I'm not convinced that that's the case. I think something as powerful as a True Rune, particularly the True Rune of Life and Death, can certainly tug events in minor ways that it causes events to conspire towards the death of the Bearer's beloved. Of course, I think it only does this if the Bearer doesn't heed its wishes... remember how it punished Tir in GS2? It was causing him physical pain, because in some fashion Tir was fighting against it. I think the Soul Eater is an apt nickname for the Rune, yes, but I think remembering that it governs Life and Death is more important.

John Layfield · Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 1:30 pm Post subject:

The Rune of Life and Death takes the soul of someone after causing their deaths through careful manipulation of 'destiny' with few exceptions (Ted's order to the rune at Seek Valley being one)

As the rune does this independently of its users wishes, if it tries to do the same to another true rune bearer, it wouldn't be accurate in the least to pin it down on the bearers mastery (or lack of) with the true runes in question.

So here's the thing. It would depend on which true rune it is. I see no way how, say, the Beast Rune could negate the manipulation of 'destiny' to save its bearers life. But I could see the Rune of the Beginning and the Rune of Life and Death having a long protracted battle to determine what would happen. (most likely without the knowledge of their respective bearers)

So, I'd say the answer is yes, in general, the Rune of Life and Death could take the life of another true rune bearer, leaving its soul open to 'absorption'. Remember, a true runes immortality granting abilities doesn't apply to, say, being mortally wounded, or having your body consumed by flesh-eating pores or the like.
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