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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:00 pm    Post subject: about Gremio Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

on the site bio it says alot of things about him i don't remembe seeing in the game at all. all i really know about him from the game is that he was Tir's servent/bodyguard. where did all the extra info come from?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I cant speak for SARSadmin but he might have gottan the information out of Mangas from the Suikoden series. Thats where they got the Timeline information from.

And shouldnt this be in the Site content discussion forum.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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I cant speak for SARSadmin but he might have gottan the information out of Mangas from the Suikoden series. Thats where they got the Timeline information from.

And shouldnt this be in the Site content discussion forum.
i figured it would have been apropriate for character discussion. since its just about 1 person.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Alot of it came from Japanse publications that were never released outside of Japan.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I have a question. He was always a favorite of mine and I would get/still get so mad when people would say he was gay. I don't think he's gay at all-I think he's just loyal. And mistaking loyalty and being gay seems a bit childish to me. I mean, girls can be really good friends with eachother without being lezbian. Why can't men have a deep bond that too?

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Is there proof that he is in fact gay. I would like to know.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

this, daycon, is like any other yaoi/yuri issue; it's a matter of fans seeing subtext and the like. officially, there is nothing proving him gay, straight or otherwise; the insinuations are all on the fandom's part.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Daycon wrote:
I have a question. He was always a favorite of mine and I would get/still get so mad when people would say he was gay. I don't think he's gay at all-I think he's just loyal. And mistaking loyalty and being gay seems a bit childish to me. I mean, girls can be really good friends with eachother without being lezbian. Why can't men have a deep bond that too?

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Is there proof that he is in fact gay. I would like to know.
he thought of Tir as a son/brother he was just really close to the family and worried to much.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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he thought of Tir as a son/brother he was just really close to the family and worried to much.


Exactly. He kind of acted like a mother figure to Tir. He was always very nuturing and always worrying about him. Not that father's aren't, but I feel that is it more common of the mother to do that to her son. Like the instance at the gate. He started yelling at him to get them through safely, but felt extremely bad afterward and started apologizing profusly. And his final act before being ressurected of giving his life to save Tir at the prison. Seeing how Tir has matured, and didn't need a "mother" anymore.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

You do realise that, even characters that -are- parents of others are still paired up with others?
I always understood his realtionship with "tir", I mean you'd have to be some sex crazed moron to think "they are lovers, he cares for him", think, if somone is loving and nurturing towrds their dog, you do can say "OMG fido lover!" Its sad people have to create twisted fantasys, can't they just practice old fashioned "self insersion" and they can be somone's lover?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Your post, Kuwaizair, seems kind of ironic considering the picture you keep underneath it, just thought I'd share that since the combination of what you were saying - which is right, people do tend to go "OMG he's soooooo gay!" when someone expresses closeness in a game - and your avatar did make me chuckle just a little bit.

Gremio's sexual orientation not only doesn't matter it would make no difference to how he was towards Tir McDohl I should think.

Edited to change wording.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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Your post, Kuwaizair, seems kind of ironic considering the picture you keep underneath it, just thought I'd share that since the combination of what you were saying - which is right, people do tend to go "OMG he's soooooo gay!" when someone expresses closeness in a game - and your avatar did make me chuckle just a little bit.
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because its called humor, expermentation (lets get some reactions), and "lets pretend to be somone I'm not"

I was thinking of making one with differtn text "Riou i demand the return of my walkman" or "soo did you get the goood stuff?"

its not -to- hypocritical, because where gremio is conserned, well you just don't do that to "your mother" (some people didn't quite see thar with some parings *gag*)
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I thought you signature was funny anyway. At least I know you so I know you're not of the personality to make pairings like that; so I saw it as a joke.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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because its called humor, expermentation (lets get some reactions), and "lets pretend to be somone I'm not"

I was thinking of making one with differtn text "Riou i demand the return of my walkman" or "soo did you get the goood stuff?"

its not -to- hypocritical, because where gremio is conserned, well you just don't do that to "your mother" (some people didn't quite see thar with some parings *gag*)


Oh yeah I got it as a joke, just paired with what you were saying, it made me laugh a bit and I thought I'd point it out incase others missed how the avatar went with the comment.

I'm with you on this anyway I don't get people creating these weird "he's gay" scenarios, it just never particularly occurs to me when i'm playing a game to start considering the characters sexual preferences...it has no bearing on the story and that's what I'm playing for.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Well I feel if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's a chicken with a personality disorder. I mean he's a little too wraped up in "young master". Even the whole young master is a little much. But I guess it because as Americans we have a meesed up view as to what a relationship between a boy, and a non-father man should be. If theses were real people. CSI would have been called long ago. Is there something in his past no one knows about that makes him like this? Really he could have been very neglected as a child, and this is his way of making up for it.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Daycon wrote:
I have a question. He was always a favorite of mine and I would get/still get so mad when people would say he was gay. I don't think he's gay at all-I think he's just loyal. And mistaking loyalty and being gay seems a bit childish to me. I mean, girls can be really good friends with eachother without being lezbian. Why can't men have a deep bond that too?

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Is there proof that he is in fact gay. I would like to know.


Gremio was not gay, he was just a loyal servant and a good friend, much like Sam and Frodo's "Friendship!" :P

Hmm.. :O Tolkien got his almost gay-like friendship idea from Suikoden 1! haha lol
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