Sovereign Rune

[blueflame]

In the final battle with the three-headed dragon in Suikoden 1,if Barbarossa had this rune, why did runes still affect him. I mean when you fight him in the battle, you can still use runes or is the Sovereign rune only immune from poisons and stuff like that because I've never tried giving a status on the three headed dragon if it is possible?

Another question, is Windy that stupid to use the black rune on Barbarossa? I bet she knows that Barbarossa has the sovereign rune. Why didn't she even take it from him? Or even know that the black rune won't affect on Barbarossa?

If you say Windy loved Barbarossa, I doubt it. I bet she only used Barbarossa to get the Souleater. A True Rune is a True Rune right? So why does it even matter if Windy takes the Sovereign Rune or the Souleater? Her only objective is to get the 27 True Runes.

[Fundertaker]

[John Layfield]

As it turned out, Windy was wrong about the whole "Looking like Claudia so that's why he's fascinated by her" angle. Although it was the case at first, it seems Barbarossa genuinely fell in love with the psycho, making him an idiot. But a romantic one.

Also, Windy only wanted the Rune of Life and Death.
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[Sialeeds]

What would Windy do with all the 27 true runes?(was that really her true objective?)

[Milan Fiori]

I thought her objective was to seek revenge on Harmonia for destroying her village. Her objective was to get the Soul Eater, and finally have her revenge.

And if I remember correctly, she did indeed think Barbarossa was under her spell of the black rune, but she finds out at the very end that he did it all for love.
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[Admiral Ackbar]

Barbarosa did fall in love with Windy. Did Windy return his feelings? Probably, in some small way. Otherwise she wouldn't have let him hold her close, then jump off a tall balcony with him. At the end they shared a kind of understanding of one another.

Windy wanted the Soul Eater, specifically. Her main goal is/was to strike back at Harmonia for killing the Clan of the Gate (only Windy and Leknaat survived). I'm sure she wouldn't have passed down another True Rune though. She razed Bob's lycantrhope village in the Grasslands because she thought she'd find a True Rune there.

The Sovereign Rune wouldn't have been available to her though, since Barbarosa likely kept it by his side at all times. And if she were to steal away the Sovereign Rune, she would lose the support of the Scarlet Moon Empire generals and citizens, who she probably needed (you can't fight Harmonia with just True Runes). Additionally, Leknaat wouldn't give up her half of the Gate Rune without a substantial fight, and the Star Dragon Sword was hidden away.

Neclord and Yuber possessed True Runes at the time, but those two also worked for Windy. She may have felt that both the Eightfold and Blue Moon Runes were bad choices for her to bear. If she were to take the Blue Moon Rune, she would be a vampire, after all.

And like Fundertaker said, Windy felt she was perfect for the Soul Eater. In the scene where she tried taking it from Tir at Seek Valley, she spoke directly at the rune itself, angry over why it refused to let her bear it. She couldn't understand why the Soul Eater would refuse her.
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[Sialeeds]

Harmonia destroyed the rune gate clans village...Does Luc or Sasarai had something to do with that? Or was it the original Hikusaak who did that?And why?

[Milan Fiori]

Luc and Sassari weren't alive when it happened. The village was destroyed hundreds and hundreds of years before Suikoden I. They did because they wanted the Gate Rune, which was the treasure of the village. They slaughtered the entire village, but Leknaat and Windy managed to escape. The also 'split' the gate rune in half using some secret technique known only to their village. So if one of them was captured, they wouldn't have the whole rune.
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[Admiral Ackbar]

Unknown who was involved, but I doubt Luc or Sasarai were. It happened centuries before Suikoden 1.

We used to think Sasarai was really old, or at least was a clone of an older Sasarai, because it was originally said that Sasarai gave the Beast Rune to Highland so many years ago. But the Suikoden developers admitted this was a typo on their part; it was supposed to be Hikusaak that gave the rune to Highland.

Sasarai and Luc are clones of Hikusaak. There may have been other clones just like them in the past (its a good possibility) but I doubt they'd be named Luc and Sasarai, and they wouldn't be the same people as the two characters we know now.
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[Ujitsuna]

Windy held specific feelings for the Soul Eater, she felt, in her own words that it was "perfect" for her, although she realised this wasn't to be when the Soul Eater rejected her when she tried to take it from Tir. It's pretty obvious as to why it rejected her as well, the Soul Eater needs loved ones, Windy didn't really have any, although it's possible Barbarossa could fill one of those slots.

I also think it is because of gameplay purposes that runes were able to harm Barbarossa in his Hyrda form, and also that perhaps while in his transformed state he also needs to use magic so this part of the rune is disabled. That's just one of a few possible (but probably the most likely) views.

[Admiral Ackbar]

Actually, the hydra is immune to magic. Each head is immune to a certain element. That's representative of the rune, I feel.
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[Milan Fiori]

Broke out the handy dandy Time Line of our very own SuikoX. Suikoden I- Tir took over as head of the Liberation Army and started the Gate Rune Wars, in 455.

Harmonia destroyed the Gate Rune Clan in year 50. So 405 year time difference. Harmonia had only been in exsistance for around 50 years.

Another neat fact, Sierra Mikain is the oldest known living person in Suikoden history. Being around 850 years old when she joined the Dunan Army to help defeat Neclord. She looked pretty hard good for her age!
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[Sialeeds]

Damn with all that significant information, I´d say screw New Armes, screw Katana I want more of Harmonia in the next game. For me you really experienced nothing about that kingdom in part 3. Besides you never really were in a Harmonian city.(except for that basar)

Hey thanks for the information that´s really interesting.

[Raww Le Klueze]