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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:51 am Post subject: Ace and Gilbert resemblance |
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When I played the part in Suikoden 3, where Ace appeared I just thought he kinda looked like Gilbert. I was looking at suikox and suikosource. It said that Ace was with Gilbert's mercenaries. I was shocked from that thing so I just thought. Is there a possibiliity that Gilbert and Ace are only one person or that they're relatives or something like that? I just want to know if anyone else thought of this. |
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:42 am Post subject: |
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I didn't think about this till you mentioned it....there is a slight resemblance in their hair styles but I don't think their faces look anything alike.
With only their hair being similar I doubt there is a solid link between the two...
who knows...maybe Gilbert made all his men style their hair like that? (I've seen it done before...in anime at least...)
Though I guess the possibility of them being distant relatives or something can't be dismissed either but we'll probably never hear anything else about it..... _________________
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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Due Fiumi.com wrote: |
Although his real name is unknown, Ace is the alias he goes by. He's from Zexen by birth and joined Gilbert's mercenary army, fighting and accumulating experience during the Dunan Unification War, becoming a veteran soldier in due time. Eventually, Ace left the mercenary army and joined the Harmonian Border Guards becoming an accountant and liaison with headquarters. |
Ace was actually a member of Gilbert's mercenary army during the Dunan Unification War, but besides that no link has ever been hinted at or confirmed.
Although that's a pretty big link in itself, no? _________________ One day, I shall come back. Yes, we shall all come back. Until then, there must be no regrets, no tears, no anxieties. Just go forward in all your beliefs and prove to me that I am not mistaken in mine. |
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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Ace and Gilbert being the same person is impossible, because Gilbert is 36 years old at the time of the Dunan Unification War, and would therefore be 51 years old at the time of Suikoden 3, and Ace is 35 at the time of Suikoden 3, and would thus be 20 years old at the time of the Dunan Unification War. They also have different stars of destiny. |
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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Ace does however look older than 35 though...! :D
I love my conspiracist assumptions. |
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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I've always assumed Ace to be his son or nephew to some degree.
but as someone earlier mentioned, the world may never know. _________________ Castle North Wind - A Suikoden RP! |
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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Did Ace fight in the Dunan Unification Wars? If not, then Ace could possibly be Gilbert's son. If I remember right, Gilbert had a wife and son waiting for him in Vinay del Zexay. And Vinay is Ace's hometown. _________________ Be awed by our prowess!
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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Didn't Gilberts son have the name of Thomas. But then again this proves that it might very well be him to. Since All of the Team changed their name Like Wang became Joker like "Jilia" supposedly was Queen if that is her real name, Jacques eventually changes his name to jacks, and Geddoe suppose to have changed his naem to king probably. And rumored that Aila changes her name to Heart after the Fire Bringer war. So I am not sure if this helps those chances or hurts them. But i do believe that this very well may help possibly. |
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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Gilbert's son is called "Thomas" who was a small boy and living in VDZ while Gilbert was fighting in the Dunan Unification Wars. Ace was a soldier within the mercneary group, fighting in the Dunan Unification Wars. If he was Gilbert's son, it would be strange for him to say, "I was in the Gilbert Mercneary Group." At least the game would show some sort of indication that Ace is related to Gilbert, such as a ominous "........" or whatever.
At the moment, there's no evidence to say Ace is related to Gilbert. If being in the same mercenary group is enough to qualify people as being related, we may as well say that Flik is related to Pohl, or Mueller is related to Richard. |
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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Ace did fight in the Dunan Unification Wars and was part of Gilbert's Mercenary group. I think its unlikely that Ace was Gilbert's son given that Gilbert would have had to be 16 when Ace was born. Not impossible, but not likely either.
Another piece of evidence against is the fact that the only son we know of that Gilbert has was in Zexen during the Dunan Unification Wars, while Ace was not.
EDIT: Vextor beat me to it. _________________
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Gilbert often talked of his home sickness for Zexen, and referenced to his family there, family being more than one person, most likely his wife and child. |
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, his wife Marie (separate from Marie in Suikoden 1). |
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I think it totally slipped my mind that Ace was part of Gilbert's merc's! Nice reminder though ^^ Thanks guys! _________________
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:32 am Post subject: |
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Well, who knows. Gilbert might have some True Rune or something and changed his name to Ace because we really don't know. Its also weird that the Highland Army would get Gilbert unless he has some special ability. The Highland Army got Leon for his strategies, Jowy for his witt and True Rune, Yuber because of his taste for blood?, and Lucia for her anger for Greenhill. What does Gilbert have? A bunch of mercs? Besides, I doubt the Highland Army would guess that they would fight with Viktor and Flik so he got Gilbert. Think about it.
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:41 am Post subject: |
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blueflame wrote: |
Well, who knows. Gilbert might have some True Rune or something and changed his name to Ace because we really don't know. Its also weird that Luca would get Gilbert unless he has some special ability. Luca got Leon for his strategies, Jowy for his witt and True Rune, Yuber because of his taste for blood?, and Lucia for her anger for Greenhill. What does Gilbert have? A bunch of mercs? Besides, I doubt Luca would guess that they would fight with Viktor and Flik so he got Gilbert. Think about it. |
There are several innaccuracies in your post, disregarding your "Gilbert has a True Rune" theory, which I find very doubtful.
1. Luca did not hire Gilbert, Solon Jhee did--which is much more believable.
2. Luca didn't hire Leon either. Leon was Jowy's strategist.
3. Luca didn't hire Lucia, Jowy did, and she accepted because Jowy promised Karaya land if she helped him.
4. Yuber was summoned by Leon Silverberg basically on Leon's own volition. Luca only asked where Yuber came from after Yuber was already summoned by Leon.
5. Its not really known officially why Luca took a liking to Jowy.
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