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 Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:47 am Post subject: Mighty Swords in Suikoden *possible spoiler* |
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I just thought of how special the Star Dragon Sword is and how interesting his abilities are.
I dont want to proof anything wrong but he had the ability to harm Vampires or Undead and he was the incarnation of the night Rune right?
But remember the King Dragon Sword from Emperror Barbarossa?
It gave him the ability to morph into a giant Hydra.
So I thought are there maybe more swords like that in the Suikoden world?
Or are these two special ones?Is the King Dragon Sword also a incarnation?Or just a magic sword maybe given by Windy? |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:52 am Post subject: |
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You're right about the Star Dragon Sword.
The King Dragon Sword Barbarossa Rugner wielded was able to transform Barbarossa only because the Soverign Rune was attached to it's hilt. Or so I remember, anyway.
That'd mean the sword is a Rugner family heirloom dating back to the foundation of the Scarlet Moon Empire. The sword isn't an incarnation of the Soverign Rune, however.
As for other really special swords... I seem to be drawing a blank.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:56 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the quick answer. Hmm ok I never heard of that rune, very interesting though.Would be cool though if there were other swords or runes which can be thatstrong and wise like the Star Dragon Sword.( I mean a talking "sword" how cool is that?) |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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The Soverign Rune is one of the 27 True Runes, and, essentially, the national Rune of the Scarlet Moon Empire, it nullifies all magic in its presence. (Which is why Barbarossa was not under Windy's magical control, he always had the sword nearby, and was really just in love with her)
True Runes do seem to have personalities, however, so I'd say they're all pretty wise, even if they don't show it. So, you never know, if another Rune decides to do something like the Rune of the Night, you just might see another super-weapon impart it's sarcastic wisdom to you in a future game. :D
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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| John Layfield wrote: |
| So, you never know, if another Rune decides to do something like the Rune of the Night, you just might see another super-weapon impart it's sarcastic wisdom to you in a future game. :D |
That reminds me of Clive's weapon "Sturm"(?) and Elza's weapons "Sonne" and "Mond", they're were pretty atractd to each other and seemed to have a own mind.. |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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Perhaps the guns, manufactured in Harmonia, were made using runic technology.
This discussion makes me think of the "King Crimson" sword(s)...
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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Although not magical both Lepants sword and the sword given to Teo McDohl by Barbarossa seemed to be pretty special heirlooms. So special in fact that I've forgotten both of their names...
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Prakk was the name of the sword given by Barbarossa Rugner to Teo McDohl at the begining of Suikoden I. |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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How about the swords Nash used (can't remember the name, something-fluss?)
He seems pretty unstoppable with those |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Seraphblade wrote: |
How about the swords Nash used (can't remember the name, something-fluss?)
He seems pretty unstoppable with those |
Yeah those swords together are named "Grosser Fluss", he becomes temporarily insane when he uses them and can't distinguish friend or foe, so generally goes on a killing spree. |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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Grosser-fluss I think. When Nash uses them, he's suppose to go into a beserker like rage, and not be able to disdinguish friend from foe.
Lepant's swords name was Kirinji, which was based on his star of Destiny. The Jade Kirin.
And from what we know of the Guild's guns, they contain some sort of soul in them, making them sentient.
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| So, you never know, if another Rune decides to do something like the Rune of the Night, you just might see another super-weapon impart it's sarcastic wisdom to you in a future game. Very Happy |
Or have another sword lay the smack down on your party for being trapped in a cave for however long!
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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As far as I know, Yuber's and Pesmerga's sword King Crimson has runic powers, that is probably because they were made by runic powers. I think most of the really powerfull weapons in Suikoden were made with runic technology.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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No where has it been stated that Pesmerga's or Yuber's sword is anything but ordinary. So I'm not sure where you got that from.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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That came from this very site, Milan Fiori. Let me quote some parts of it for you.
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| He uses a Crimson Sword, which is a sword imbued with runic power. |
This came from Pesmerga's profile in the main page. Assuming that Yuber is using the same sword as Pesmerga's (which has the same name as his), then his weapon is also imbued with runic power. |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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Well huh. I didn't know that obviously. But then again, I don't really like Yuber nor Pesmerga.
Though the only runic powers I've ever seen on his sword was a rage rune attached to it. So I suppose that could be the runic power mentioned. So I doubt it was made by runic means, just imbued. But who knows.
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