Suikoden IV Lineage

Gaara · Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 2:04 pm Post subject:

Extremely doubtful, if Stallion was half-elf, his family and him would most probably be outcasted and not be allowed to live amonst other elves. Saying that that could have been the reason he was in prison when you first meet him is unlikely.

Beecham · Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:11 pm Post subject:

Nice new avatar, Gaara. Lunar 2?

Anyway, here I cannot agree with you more wholeheartedly. Just because both of them were born with the Godspeed Rune doesn't mean they're related. It's an entirely coincidental thing. I also agree strongly that half elves, if they can even exist in such a setting, are going to be outcast from their homes. The racial divisions between elves and humans are, for the most part, fairly rock solid; neither side accepts the other openly. And while it's possible an elf and a human could have fallen in love, that previous fact prevents the product of their coupling to exist freely in either world.

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Gaara · Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:20 pm Post subject:

Actually, the avatar is from Lunar 1.

Also since elves live much longer than humans do, it is quite possible for Stallion's parents to be alive during the setting of Suikoden IV which would make him directly half-elf, which strongly indicates you wouldn't even find him anywhere close to the Elven Tree. We can also sense the hostility towards humans from Sylvina's father, the chief of the elves so it's highly likely that even in Suikoden, half-elves are looked down upon.

MMan9000 · Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:50 pm Post subject:

Isn't that Royce's Bromide (a picture from Lunar 1). Royce was one of the bad guys, but this isn't the correct forum to be talking about that.

Anyways, I don't think elves would live over 150 years. We don't know the average life expectancy for people in the Suikoden world, so we have no idea how much older elves tend to live to then humans. However, since some SODs from the Suikoden series were from 60-80 years old, so that can give us a clue based on that.
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Gaara · Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 2:56 am Post subject:

I'm not saying that Stallion's parents were most definetly alive during the events of both Suikoden I and IV, but say Elves could live to at least 80 years of age or so, even if Stallion's parents weren't alive during the events of Suikoden I, they would be able to live long enough to somewhere along those periods. Stallion isn't that young anyways, he seems to be in his teen years and being an elf, he could possibly be even much older than that.

And yes, that is Royce's bromide from Lunar 1.

Beecham · Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:52 am Post subject:

Gaara · Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:44 pm Post subject:

The elves Harukaze left out.

Beecham · Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:40 pm Post subject:

Feels good when we find proof for something, huh? :)

Anyway, I do wonder about it... just why -are- some people -born- with a Godspeed Rune? That just makes so little sense, I don't get it.

Acheron · Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:51 pm Post subject:

Some people are just born with runes. How do you think the runes got there? Maybe when a rune is born of a true rune it means that the True Runes maybe radiate their own element(not just element but attribute) and the runes are kind of like cancer that is caused by radiation. As you may know, Sarah(from s3) was said to be born with a flowing rune so its not just limited to the Godspeed/True Holy Rune.

OptimisticPessimist · Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:47 pm Post subject:

Well, there are lots of different elves. And Selma and Paula in Suikoden Iv being cast out means that there are actually more elves out in the Suikoden world than we think.

While only Cedric is linked to Stallion because of his propensity to "run", so-called.

But that link may be possible, since Stallion and Cedric both mention the True Holy Rune (NOT a True Rune).

... I'm sorta messed up at the moment. Anyone wants to continue?
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Gaara · Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:25 am Post subject:

Paula has never even been to her village because her mother was cast out from there. As for Selma, she was cast out for helping the humans escape. We can sense the hostility towards the humans coming from the elves side and vice versa. In any case, Paula and Selma both returned to the Elven Tree by the end of the game.

Noot · Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 5:20 am Post subject:

I think the Godspeed rune is just one of those unique runes in the Suikoverse, like Champion's Crystals and Fortune Crystals and such. It's just incredibly rare. I think it's interesting that Cedric was born with the Godspeed rune, but to draw the conclusion that he is related (in whatever way) to Stallion is just foolish.
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