opinions on makeup

[Connor MacLeod]

I know this is kind of irrelevent, but I must have this conversation everyday. The boys in my school snerk and roll their eyes at the girls wearing a ton of make-up (even the ones who just wear a little). These same boys, however, also have posters of Pamela Anderson in their lockers, who is inarguably natural with her bleach-blond hair and permatan.

Anyway. What I want to know is everyone's take on it, how girls feel about makeup and guys' reactions, and guys, how you...react. Please don't answer, "omg eww makeup sux i like it when grls look natural like jessica simpson". Keep in mind all the rich and beautiful people wear enough money's worth in makeup yearly to support an emerging nation.

My own feeling on it is that I'm not too crazy about the stuff save for kohl and lip balms. Lipstick makes my lips feel like they're dying and for some reason, I find that uncomfortable.

[Vincent Chase]

Love Thine Conrad said:

[Trevoke]

I'm honestly not a big fan of makeup; I find it more a turn-off than anything else. This being said, I have to be honest, sometimes it's done so well that it's nearly invisible.. In those cases I'm amazed :)
I would much rather no makeup than tons of makeup, and I think I like it even more when it's used just right, only the right touch of it to enhance perfection.
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[Horned Loa]

Well by human nature girls are meant to be the beautiful gender since ever since the caveman, men have provided the food and protection which was what they are judged by (and are still judged by today for the most part, but this is a whole new thread) where as women had to have to be more beautiful than the other women to get chosen by the most capable guys. This is a pure example of Darwin's survival of the fittest theory. The strong (in this case beautiful) get to reproduce and pass on their genes where as the weak (or the less beautiful and I'm not just saying ugly necessarily) don't find a partner and soon die out. Over time this has become an instinct and beauty is something every person feels is pleasant to look at. An example for guys would be some of the hottest actresses or singers whilst the girls like the cute and handsome actors, singers and supermodels. There are certain people that some claim to be beautiful and others not (such as Jesica Simpson, whom I find disgusting) but thats something that is based on personal experience with people.

With all of that out of the way, make up as you say is a way for the women to beautify themselves and increase their chances of genetic survival so to speak. The fact is that just about every guy (presuming they are not gay and even some gay guys) finds women with make up attractive, of course with the proper amount and position of the make up. Lipstick on the cheek might not look too attractive but full, red, moist, lips do definitely look appealing. Of course in the modern times the Darwinian theory has more or less gone down the drain because of this (well as far as humans are concerned, it can still be applied to animals) since even the average looking females can now look beautiful thanks to make up. Guys are WELL aware of this fact and know that a woman with make up can look totally different without it.

In short, guys that only want to sleep with a girl generally don't care if she has make up on or not, but guys that want a girlfriend or a wife, as in a long term relationship, generally want someone who is naturally beautiful however personality can and usually does also enter the equation in which case beauty seems to matter less and less.

As for the question of HOW much make up to wear, I myself find it is best in moderation. Enough to enhance the look a bit, yet not too much as to cover the natural look completely. It really depends on two things....the first would be your natural look and skin color and the second is your personal preference. If you say lipstick feels uncomfortable to wear then don't do it, unless of course you are really trying to impress a guy who likes lipstick, but thats your choice really. :P

[Connor MacLeod]

I don't mean the price of the makeup necessarily, I mean the amount used and the application. Even stars famed for their "natural" look, like Mischa Barton, won't go to any press conference without having their studio pay for hair and makeup, so generally when you see a star, they've had professional hands working their face.

How do I know they use a lot of makeup? Last year for a school play they hired really famous-in-the-region professionals to do hair and makeup. They put this gross beige stuff on your skin to hide pores, mascara that looks a lot like a block of slate, and about four layers of lipstick. When you look in the mirror, it doesn't look like a lot, but it feels really heavy. And I must admit I did look kind of hot in an over-painted clown sort of way. But did it make me feel any better about myself? No. I couldn't hug anyone in a white shirt all night without worrying they'd walk off with my face.

I wonder sometimes is guys even know what they want, or girls for that matter. My girlfriends (PLATONIC YOU PERVS) claim to wear it to look better to men, but as you said, guys'll get with you regardless of how you look generally speaking. I think girls wear makeup to impress other girls.

I don't try to change my outer appearence to attract men. I prefer to win them over with my personality.

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[Horned Loa]

[Vincent Chase]

Bishop Black Fang Wrote:

[Connor MacLeod]

I should've clarified. I meant celebrities.

As for hair, well, as most girls know, if you have curly hair it has trouble being smooth; only the pros can give you covergirl hair. Same for if you have flat hair. I would consider hair styling a form of cosmotology, as you take your nature hair pattern and alter it.

I know girls who spend like, an hour straightening their hair every morning. No joke.

Another good point brought up is animal testing. Any takes on that?

[Sage]

[Horned Loa]

[Vextor]

Animal testing is a travesty--it is often unnecessary, misleading, and overly cruel. Some cosmetics may have different effects on certain animals as opposed to humans, so such experimentation is scientifically on shaky grounds. Besides, it's mostly the cheap stuff that is animal tested (made by P&G and their hundreds of subsidiaries).

I think makeup is good--it's not only women who use it, too.

[Lunarblade]

Makeup is okay...but only in moderation. Girls with too much look like...well, you know.
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[Arcana]

[Shrew]

It depends on the make-up really. I'm not a fan of eye-liner and such. If applied well make-up looks good, but I feel a lot of quick or overdone make-up jobs would look better without. As said before- it's good in moderation.

Except body glitter. Body glitter is a direct link to destruction and pain. I've yet to see an attractive use of it.
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[sybillious]

i don't wear makeup to impress anyone; i don't have to-you like what you see or you don't, makeup won't change that opinion.

i've found that plenty of guys go for the 'masked' girls over the natural look; it's all dependant on the individual's tastes.

animal testing is a horror; imagine someone putting a random substance in your eyes just to see the reaction...it's as bad as vivisection *where an animal is subjected to dissection while live.*
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