No black people?

[CAPTAIN PLANET]

Maybe Dog-People...
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[Ujitsuna]

[Rune of Corruption]

Something about Lucia and Luce seems black to me. The rest is seems like the are Native American. Hopefully we will start to see more black characters in the future. Hauser was around about the same time as Barret of FF7. It was nice to see one not so stereotypical of us.
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[Fu Su Lu]

Believe me. There should be more black people. Kika was mentioned before...how the heck is she going to be so pale if she spends her life on the sea? Same goes for Snowe, Lazlo and his companions and a long etc. -they should have a serious cancer skin by now :roll: -
But considering how Japanese graphic designers draw round eyes despite they have almond shaped eyes I am not surprised at all...
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[Andarc]

well.. I think they should be realistic and at least give the brothers a place to call their own >_> damn son

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[Admiral Ackbar]

I consider the Karayans black. Not every black person has Wesley Snipes skin, guys. And for the love of God, not all black cultures are from Africa and not all cultures from Africa are black.

I think the Karayans have a more Nubian look. But you cannot look at characters like Luce and Ayla and tell me they aren't black. They both have strong Africa features, and their skin tone is right. I don't know where you guys are getting Latino from. Maybe Hugo.

Hallec. How is Hallec not black?

Have you guys noticed? Only Ishikawa puts black characters into Suikoden. Kawano and King only have Asian and white people (barring an Arab or so here and there in the case of Suiko5). I hate seeing whitey everywhere. There are 100+ characters in every game, and they're always white or Asian. I too wish they would be more multicultural. I'm tired of having the series go from nation to nation, only to see white people as the dominate race/culture everywhere.

I agree about the Island Nations thing. That place is a heatstroke waiting to happen, and yet everyone is pale. The darkest person I can think of is Penola, which doesn't make sense, because she's fully clothed and has that tower on her head that envelops all of Middleport in shadow. Then there's Na-Nal I guess. Axel and Jewel are rather dark-toned, but like all dark-skinned people in Japanese games...they have white or blond hair.
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[Sialeeds]

Well you can´t blame Konami or the game for it. The only RPG I know which had a "fair" or moderate amount of people with darker skin ( I wont call them black now) was Finla Fantasy 10. But I also would wish for a little bit more "brothers" ;)

[eXistence of Fly]

[kuwaizair]

well, prehaps the IL people were northren invadiors from centuries ago? But I agree they shold be more tanned. Prehaps digging up some skintones and geographical settings would be helpfull now?
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[Luceit]

Note: Black people aren't the same as tanned people. If we're talking ethnicity here, the closest match would be the Karayans, but you have to remember that there are many, many kinds of of black people.

I would like to see not just more black people, but more black cultures. It just seems weird to see Hauser pop out of nowhere. :/
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[Sialeeds]

Well I guess when creating the Karaya tribe and maybe Hallec´s tribe(where we only know him) the creators thought of African tribes.
Plus I bet all people from Bob´s village were Black too, so I guess since these tribes live all in the Grasslands and north of it guys like Hauser and Karen come from there?

[RedCydranth]

Karen? Black? No. Look at this and please tell me how she's black: Karen

Anyhow, I also have noticed the lack of definitively black people in Suikoden. Aside from Hauser, Samus, Bob and some Karayans, I don't see any definitively black people. Even within the Karaya clan we see there a distinct difference in skin tones. Look at Lucia and Aila and then look at Lucretia.

Maybe its just how Suikoden V's art is but if all Karayans were of black decent, then why isn't Lucretia as dark as Aila and Lucia?

And for Hallec's case, I do not think he's black at all. In fact I'd be willing to wager good money he's not. He's based on a mix of native american tribes. If you look at the native americans who lived out in Arizona and Nevada area, they have extremely dark skin, but you can't go saying they're black. Sure he has dark tones, but to say he's black when his character is clearly based on native culture, is, in my opinion, incorrect.

It was only recently I started to think that Karayans could be black because I thought they were tanned like Native Americans too, but Aila and Lucia look to much like black people to me. Maybe its Aila's character art reminding me of Rudi from the Cosby show in some way thats doing it, but those two look more black than Luce or Beecham to me. Beecham I'd say would fall more into the really tanned white dude. Same with Hugo. Luce though is a hybrid. She's got that stereotypical fat black woman thing (as portrayed often by Eddie Murphy, Martin Lawrence and the guy who does Medea) going for her, but there's something about her that tells me she's just a really tanned lady who loves her son. And speaking of annoying little Lulu, I don't think he looks black either. However because our character art of him has him in quite possibly the stupidest facial expression given in a Suikoden portrait, we can't look at the facial features for determination. Stupid Lulu, I hated him so much.

Sialeeds above brought up a good point though, its not just Suikoden that has given black people the shaft. How many black people do you see in Star Ocean series? or Final Fantasy? Kiros and Barret are all I can think of. Maybe Rafa and Malak from Tactics, but thats debatable. Anyhow, its not only just the Suikoden series that has given our dark skinned friends the shaft.

I think the general theory is that these worlds are not like ours, in that they have different human races, but have different animalian races. Because this is a fantasy setting, there doesn't need to be a continent of black people and a continent of asians and such. I wish there was an absolute answer to why we don't see more people like Hauser and Samus. But we don't have one, and there won't be one unless Konami all of a sudden makes a definitive black community in a Suikoden game. The Karayans are too grey area to be considered definitively black.

[Calvin]

[Sialeeds]