Will the Grasslands be able to continue on for long?

Acheron · Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 12:48 am Post subject:

Yeah see I told ya I didn't know much about Toran among other things. Heh. Thought I knew about Scarlet Moon Empire since I've played IV and it mentions Scarlet Moon Empire.

I thought that since theirs one on the map their would be one now but I guess its just that they needed more nations to provide diversity. Thanks for the correction.

Scarlet Assassin · Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 1:38 am Post subject:

Wow. It's come full circle. Star Slasher corrected me when I first got here, and now I get to correct someone WOOT!

Anyway, no problem, everyone makes mistakes.
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Beethoven4567 · Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:06 am Post subject:

Can anybody please explain how united the Grassland tribes are? Do they frequently mingle and socialize with each other? Or do they live separately in their respective territories with little socialization between the varios tribes? I would love to see Hugo marrying someone from the Alma Kinan and Chisha clans :D . Maybe one day the Grasslands would form a League of the Grasslanders and have a law that states, "if any member of the Grassland Clans were attacked by any hostile power, all members are obliged to fight against the aggressors." This can pave a way for a truly united Grasslands.
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Scarlet Assassin · Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 12:55 pm Post subject:

From what was seen in Suikoden 3, we're led to believe that with the exception of Alma Kinan, all the tribes are very friendly to one another. The Lizard clan, Duck Clan, and Karaya clan are all warriors and mingle freely. THe CHisha clan, however, is peace loving and obviously has less in common with the other three, and thus associates less. THe Alma Kinan clan is secretive and thus no one socializes with them. WE don't know much about the Safir clan or the Le BUque clan before Harmonia took over, so we really can't make any assumptions about them.
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Acheron · Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 4:50 pm Post subject:

Safir was recently taken over and for some reason I thought that Martha the Budehuc fortune teller was from the Safir clan but I'm not sure if theres any basis in the thought. I also read that it may be somewhat like an Arabian feel to it based on leterary clues in the games but O well. Its a mystery.

Le Buque stayed with Harmonia I believe, which dissappoints me to no end. They used to be called the Carne Clan, if my memory serves me rightly. They were distant from the rest of the clans so it would make sense that their ties to the other tribes would be somewhat more loose. And they were relative to Caleria which meant they probably got a lot of trading business from Caleria and other jobs like gaurds for merchants on the Mountain Path. I guess that Franz thought it better to just stay with Harmonia instead of risk being taken again. I would have loved to see Le Buque return to its roots as the Carne Clan and relocate to the Grasslands(or more localized to the Grasslands). Some of this is speculation and dream but other is real true goodness.

Beethoven4567 · Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:37 pm Post subject:

Wiseman · Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:54 pm Post subject:

If Le Buque rebelled against Harmonia they would crush them easily, that's why they don't try to oppose them.
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John Layfield · Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:03 pm Post subject:

It's a delicate balance right now. Zexen and the Grasslanders have their uneasy alliance, Tinto is always ready to try and annex some more lands and if Harmonia spot an easy chance for victory they'll take it.

As long as Zexen/Grassland relations remain decent, it should put off a Harmonian invasion, for now at least. I wouldn't be surprised, however, if, say, in 30 years the Grasslands have been carved up between Zexen and Harmonia, with Tinto nabbing bits of the southern areas.
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Neclord · Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:54 pm Post subject:

Why exactly DID Le Buque remain as Harmonia's?

I thought for sure after the Fire Bringer were victorious that Le Buque naturally would become Grassland territory again but this wasn't the case.

It just seemed as though the Fire Bringer 'liberated' Le Buque to me, but in reality they just LEFT them to be slaves instead of reclaiming what used to be Grasslands?

That seems rather strange to me.
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Beethoven4567 · Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:46 pm Post subject:

John Layfield · Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:05 am Post subject:

People live under occupation all the time, not everyone would rather die for a vauge ideal like freedom.

Why do you think Native Americans aren't going around bombing places demanding 'freedom'? Or the south? Hello? Tried to declare independence, got punched in the teeth and dragged back into the Union?

The fact is, as long as the people of Le Buque co-operate with Harmonia then they'll live good lives and will most likely brough up to date with Harmonia research and technology. It's a win-win situation.
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Kobold · Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:43 am Post subject:

I'd say the regular skirmishes will resume, but no one will really outrightly try to destroy grasslands anytime soon.

THis is simply due to 2 reasons. Completely annihilating grasslands will take too much effort and strength. The only country that would be able to do that would be Harmonia. Zexen doesn't have enough forces to wipe out grasslands. Neither do Tinto. As for Dunan and Toran, they have no reason to.

Yet, if Harmonia ever feels like completely annihilating Grasslands, it will once more result in the unification of grasslands, zexen, outlands and possibly tinto simply because non of these nations would allow grasslands to be taken completely by Harmonia.

They still have trade and stuff. And logically, Harmonia wouldn't try to destroy grasslands just yet because it'll waste too much resources.
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Beethoven4567 · Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 10:53 am Post subject:

Deleted User 1 · Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 6:21 pm Post subject:

I think the Grasslands are destined to be tookover.The flame champion reunited them for the time being.But do to the problems there bound to have they will disband the whole grassland force.Eventually will just get taken over by a massive power like Harmonia or Dunan.Sadly it's unavoidable they just dont have enough strength to compete.

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