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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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Well... I don't know what everyone else thinks... but I will be the first to put my opinion about this... I think that it's great... I like the shadow effects and the lighting of the piece... the action position of the character is great... the facial expression is good to not that most people would care but great... What equipment do you use for this... just unipens? what about Copic markers? they are pretty good as well... quality stuff and rather pricey... but it makes the outcome worth it... plus the effects of copic markers are great... well the picture is great man... you going to do more? maybe another character?


that expresssion is really speechless and very serious. Yes, just unipens, they're cheap here in the Philippines and copic markers are quite pricey here. Another character....hmmm.....I haven't think about making an another one but I'll try and thanks for your opinion on my art!! ^^
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I'm just wondering, we can still do this? I mean we're not making a profit or anything so its ok?

hasn't anyone considerd music? Fighting game musics are special, and simple. so It'll be hard to compose somthing that is "made for Vs games", seeing as how the ones I know are differnt compaired to a platform or, obviosuly RPG. though some RPG boss music isn't anythng special. (Suikoden 1's battle musics are kind of like this)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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that expresssion is really speechless and very serious. Yes, just unipens, they're cheap here in the Philippines and copic markers are quite pricey here.


Hahaha... would you rather I lie and say it's the best picture I have ever seen? :lol: well... It actually is one of the best black and white picture of Luc I have seen... and anime/manga style as well which would be my taste of course... Unipens I have very little information over... all I know is that I can use them for free at my college for work hahaha... we are allowed to use copic markers as well so if I have a design that's screaming at me to be finished I will borrow some of them for that... I know that they are around twenty pounds for five copic markers and the refilling inks are damn exspensive as well... I am thinking of getting an air brush... the work done with those eauipment are superb...... I think copic markers are exspensive everywhere anyway unless you are allowed to use someone else's... hehehe... :twisted:

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Another character....hmmm.....I haven't think about making an another one but I'll try and thanks for your opinion on my art!! ^^


Hey no problem... if you got an anime or manga I woudn't mind being the judge of it hehhe... I am a anime and manga fan but lack the style in both areas instead I have my own which is manga animation style but half realism as well haha anime style characters are not really good as they all tend to look like one another if you've seen a whole load of animes... also my college has a rule... have anime in any of your work and you automatically fail the course... harsh. Another character... I can hardly wait for this hehehe...

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I'm just wondering, we can still do this? I mean we're not making a profit or anything so its ok?


Well yeah we can do this... recently there was a flash game made which is roughly three years old now... after being downloaded over one hundred thousand times it has been made into a playstation two game... all I know is your a alien battling through over twenty levels trying to get back to your spaceship and leave the planet you crashed on... the graphics are still two dimentional and flash made... can't remember what it's called though...even if we were making profit where's the harm in that? hehehe

As for the music... not my specialised area so... JNX out
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Hahaha... would you rather I lie and say it's the best picture I have ever seen? :*laugh*: well... It actually is one of the best black and white picture of Luc I have seen... and anime/manga style as well which would be my taste of course... Unipens I have very little information over... all I know is that I can use them for free at my college for work hahaha... we are allowed to use copic markers as well so if I have a design that's screaming at me to be finished I will borrow some of them for that... I know that they are around twenty pounds for five copic markers and the refilling inks are damn exspensive as well... I am thinking of getting an air brush... the work done with those eauipment are superb...... I think copic markers are exspensive everywhere anyway unless you are allowed to use someone else's... hehehe... :twisted:


the unipen was actually free when I took designing in school......^^

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Hey no problem... if you got an anime or manga I woudn't mind being the judge of it hehhe... I am a anime and manga fan but lack the style in both areas instead I have my own which is manga animation style but half realism as well haha anime style characters are not really good as they all tend to look like one another if you've seen a whole load of animes... also my college has a rule... have anime in any of your work and you automatically fail the course... harsh. Another character... I can hardly wait for this hehehe...


do wait when i finished my art again!!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I think it would be a great idea, I also would like it to be in 2D. Here are the characters I think should be in it:

Suikoden I: Tir McDohl, Gremio, Cleo, Pahn, Barbarosa Rugner, Windy.

Suikoden II: Riou, Nanami, Jowy Atreides, Luca Blight, Viktor, Flik.

Suikoden III: Hugo, Chris Lightfellow, Geddoe, Luc, Sarah, Yuber, Thomas.

Suikoden IV: Hero4, Lino En Kuldes, Snowe Vingerhut, Troy, Graham Cray, Kika.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

what the heck? Thomas fighting? sure he acted as a comander and saved another thomas from being eaten by a boar...but hes not a brawler.

I think I like the list...I have no idea how you plan to make this game....if it will act like tratidional fighting games...or be somthing, strange.

speeking of flash games, I saw somone playing a flash fan-made-sonic. it llooked pretty good, like it was Sonic 5 for sega genisis (with rounded coloruing) JNX what flash game do you speek of? are we allowd to see it, I mean its like fan art which is allowed no?


I think it would be cool to have an unlock for Jowy2, like hit this and that to get him. or like in Primal Rage, when you selected a character, hitting the button and another (like the low kick button) would change your color. its funny, one t-rex chara turned purple! *laughadoodle* killer Barney.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Thomas is a role-model figure for weak children who dream of becoming strong, so he fits in well.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I dont agree thomas is just weak so there's no point of adding him in this great idea

Respect for the twisted mind who thought of such a great idea

But i think the game would be cooler if you could use your rune's :D and as you go allong you can aquire true runes ;)

Or like a tag mach so that characters can use unite attacks :P

*edit i really have a vast imagination don't I :P
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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Thomas is a role-model figure for weak children who dream of becoming strong, so he fits in well.


That or for children who dress badly

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Thomas would be a terrible addition to a fighter Suikoden, Come on I think there are many more that would fit the slot better.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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the unipen was actually free when I took designing in school......^^


FREE!!?? grrrr.... lucky, I don't get no unipens, but at least I get to borrow copic markers... permanently borrow them hehehe... well it is not the equipment and tools that make the artist, but the person that makes the artist. :wink:

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do wait when i finished my art again!!


I am still waiting... hahaha i'm only messing bredren... take your time, getting compliments are good if JNX here is giving them... but be warned I am a cold rater... but think deeply about this... if I spot any weaknesses or mistakes, it only makes you a better artist by having you learn from your mistakes right bredren?

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FREE!!?? grrrr.... lucky, I don't get no unipens, but at least I get to borrow copic markers... permanently borrow them hehehe... well it is not the equipment and tools that make the artist, but the person that makes the artist. :wink:

yep.....very true indeed!! just your talents and you yourself!! ^_^

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I am still waiting... hahaha i'm only messing bredren... take your time, getting compliments are good if JNX here is giving them... but be warned I am a cold rater... but think deeply about this... if I spot any weaknesses or mistakes, it only makes you a better artist by having you learn from your mistakes right bredren?

JNX out

still very busy on my studies (still have 3 weeks before our graduation) but i balance both of them to finish it on time but i guess it didn't....^^ i'll just post again if i'm done on my art.....it's ok if i got some cold comments, it just itches me to do better!!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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still very busy on my studies (still have 3 weeks before our graduation) but i balance both of them to finish it on time but i guess it didn't....^^ i'll just post again if i'm done on my art.....it's ok if i got some cold comments, it just itches me to do better!!


It's quite alright... I can wait hahaha... I am also extremely busy and understand how it is like... I have five courses to hand in by next week... each are like four weeks worth of work and I have like two weeks worth to do now... lol why am I still on this forum? well I do need a break at times...

well then I now know that I can be a little bit strict so yay... you will improve when I tell you your faults... but I won't post it here of course... I would just send you a private message and let others enjoy your anime artworks... which is good by the way... I can't seem to get the jaw angel perfect all the time which proper makes me switch on it!!! :twisted:
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It's quite alright... I can wait hahaha... I am also extremely busy and understand how it is like... I have five courses to hand in by next week... each are like four weeks worth of work and I have like two weeks worth to do now... *laugh* why am I still on this forum? well I do need a break at times...


well really need a break because of all hard days work needs a rest.....

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well then I now know that I can be a little bit strict so yay... you will improve when I tell you your faults... but I won't post it here of course... I would just send you a private message and let others enjoy your anime artworks... which is good by the way... I can't seem to get the jaw angel perfect all the time which proper makes me switch on it!!! :twisted:


sure you can do it in a private way....^_^
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

ok......i already finished my art...

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/15581650/ - this Luc in his alternative costume (if this IS his alternative costume), I just put the bag for decoration on his back!! lolz

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/15583020/ - a sketch of Luc (in his kid version)
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

YAY!!!! time for an honest review... hehehe... let me begin :twisted:

Number one- it's allright... a decent anime picture but the style is very pokemon like... a joking anime if you get me... on the bottom left picture, the coloured in one, his hands aren't drawn correctly and doesn't look like a clenched fist with the thumb up... starting from the knuckles, you made the height go from medium to large, which makes it look like he's holding an invisible gun, if however they were drawn a tiny bit longer and made even in height, that should fix up the looks, shading is also important in the hand, it should be dark in both sides and brighter in the middle to show the little finger muscle coming out as the fist is clenched...

The other arm though, looks almost double jointed or broken... we all know the arm can bend one way but this arm seems to be going in the favour of the opoosite side if you were to say it's muscle then okay... but the left line of the arm is also bending in that direction which backs up the fact that it is bending in an odd way lol I hope I ain't being too hard...

I can see that you use guides to draw the face... interesting, have you not been doing this for long? anyway, I can't read the rigthing and I know that the Luc picture on the right is only a rough sketch so there's no point me poniting things about that one now is there lol

Next picture!!! :D oh... it's a larger version of the coloured one lol... well would you want an example for the hand or something? I could save that picture, use paint to roughly out line how it should look more like and post it up here... but not before playing around with it hehehe :twisted: the way you coloured it in now...

it didn't really look like an anime style of colouring... but then again, I don't think you were aiming for that... but if you was then know this (though you may already know) anime normally uses two to three shades of colouring for one part and NO blending... Dark, Medium and Light... I see that you shaded some parts black... well if you did that, then you would have to shade in a lot of it black, instead you should use a darker version of the same colour...

Parts like under the jaw were shaded black... instead, you might want to consider using a much darker version of the skin colour... this should make it look less like a beard or something and well... it's more realistic and all that crap lol

Well... that wasn't too hard was it... sorry if it was. ..

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