The Zexen Federation's borders...

Maiazuru · Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 6:16 pm Post subject: The Zexen Federation's borders...

Just trying to get my geographical bearings on the Zexen Federation, namely with their borders.

To me, it seems to be:

North: Budehuc Castle is probably the extreme north of the Federation. I think.

West: The sea. That's certain.

East: Well, it seems that Brass Castle is on the eastern border,

South: No idea.

What do you think? :D

Vextor · Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 6:17 pm Post subject:

Yeah, that's probably about right.

Maiazuru · Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 12:10 am Post subject:

I guess I wonder how far south it goes, South enough to get into a war with Tinto, I guess...

Lunarblade · Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 3:26 pm Post subject:

Yeah, they've obviously had their problems with Tinto...I still wonder though. I like what's been done for the nation wars, though: it seems to make great sense.
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Vextor · Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 4:08 pm Post subject:

This article may help.

http://www.suikox.com/ed/grasslands40422.html

Inko · Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 7:12 pm Post subject:

are you attempting to spark a war between Zexen and Tinto?

I speak for myself because I cannot dabble in domestic affairs without permission from the president but I believe, as a citizen of Tinto, that we have no intention of attack Zexen.

MMan9000 · Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 7:52 pm Post subject:

I think they are talking about the events that take place after Suikoden III. A few years after the events of Suikoden III, tinto and zexen had a war. I don't remember what it is about, I think I read about it on this site....
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Leb · Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 7:56 pm Post subject:

Sualtam Lugh · Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:15 pm Post subject:

"are you attempting to spark a war between Zexen and Tinto?

I speak for myself because I cannot dabble in domestic affairs without permission from the president but I believe, as a citizen of Tinto, that we have no intention of attack Zexen."

One, we're allied. Two, we'd kick your ass. :mrgreen:
No one's trying to attempt war.

Krawnik · Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 11:03 pm Post subject:

I'm a lot more confused about the Grassland borders. I thought that there was a line of latitude at about Brass Castle that marked the Grassland/Zexen border, but apparently Budehuc is half on Grassland territory. Ehn? Doesn't that mean that there is Grassland territory (apparently devoid of tribes) north of Brass Castle, and north of Budehuc? I always thought the Nameless Lands were directly north of Budehuc- and according to the map, Budehuc in my mind at least, should be in Zexen territory. Based on Budehuc, does this mean that Grassland stretces all the way to the sea in the west?
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Shrew · Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 11:15 pm Post subject:

Eh... well Zexen is really just a piece of the Grasslands that got rich off trading and decided to separate themselves from the barbarian tribes. So unimportant border areas like Budehuc would still be under dispute. I'd imagine that there's a great deal of stuff to the north of Brass that does belong to the Grasslands, and Zexen doesn't care because it's worthless.
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Krawnik · Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 11:19 pm Post subject:

So the Zexens used to be Grasslanders? Funky.
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Eggith Cyrene · Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:52 am Post subject:

yes its mentioned in game by salome i believe that zexen is only 50 or so years old and harmonia may consider it a part of grassland

As for the border thing yeah i was confused about the budehic thing too. The way i figure it budheic is the extreame northern border of zexen; whereas grassland stops in the field between karayan village on the western border but above brass castle (well far enough above it) would be considered grassland. mt hei toi is in grassland. grasslands continues west (but not south) to budheic and that general area is disputed between the two countries (untill thomas sells it to lucia and leases it for 200 years thereby making it independent) Everything north of budheic and mt hei toi is either the knightdom of Camello and the outlands where thomas is from.

Zexen southern borders i would guess extend down to the map and tinto is seperated from grassland by mountains/river.
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Axiose · Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:19 pm Post subject:

I think that's part of the reason Suikoden III didn't have a free roaming world map. Otherwise they'd have to stick in un-realistic barriers all over the place to stop the world map being overly large, which would then take away from the sense of size in Grasslands.

I think the reason the borders are not very definitive between Zexen, Grasslands and even Tinto is purposeful. This creates simple conflicts and definately reflects the general attitude of aggression.

Grasslander: "This is our land"
Zexen: "This is our land"
Tinto: "This isn't our land, but we'll take it anyway."
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