Homosexual Films?

Axiose · Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 4:53 pm Post subject: Homosexual Films?

Weird question, but does anyone know any films that have a strong moral story about homosexuality. No, I'm not talking about gay porn lol I'm curious because a person I know *who wishes to remain anonymous* has just come out, but here in the land before time (Isle of Man - curious name given the circumstances!) there's little to no advice for someone 15 years old.

So actually I'm really just lookinf for any films or books or anything you know of that might be of help.
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Blaze Silven · Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 5:43 pm Post subject:

the only movie i can think of is called the birdcage. it is about a homosexual person has a straight son thats getting married to the representative's daughter. the representative is against same sex marriage and finds out that his brother and sister-in-law are homosexuals!
good movie and hilariously funny it has robin williams in it.

luc · Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:09 pm Post subject:

I like psychology and 15 is to young to say you'r or you'r friend :roll: is gay. Also it's very rare to be born gay there is usaly some childhood trauma.

Borus · Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 8:00 pm Post subject: ?!

How can anyone possibly know what they are when they're fifteen? You're still shaping your identity, right? I can't pass this thread up, because I've had several homosexual friends when I was in school, and I know how painful life was for some of them when they were younger.

This might sound incredibly heinous to even suggest, but what about talking to your parents? Some parents are actually okay with the idea, while others aren't. I'll tell you this: One of my friends' names was Todd, and he was probably the happiest gay guy I've ever met in my life. Unlike many of his friends, who wound up becoming alcoholics and drug addicts over time, Todd is happily arranged with a man named Paul, and they live just like husband and husband. They are both built like tanks (which says to me that Body Image has a lot to do with their level of personal comfort with who they are), and they are (at least as far as I know) monogamously partnered, to the point of having a respectable living arrangement. They are definitely more popular in circles than I and my family, but for fairness' sake, there are plenty of people who find their lifestyles deplorable.

Now, let me state this: I have no problem with a person's orientation one way or another. I truly believe that some people are born gay and others are conditioned to it. I will also go so far as to say that a large number of the homosexuals I;ve met in my day seemed to have serious deeply rooted issues which took them down a very stubborn path. I think that there is a HUGE difference between a truly born homosexual, and a young man who is imply curious about the turbulent times of puberty, just trying to figure himself out. There are tons of factors that will play into any persons life when creating your identity. Whatever you do, I hope that you'll always stand by your friend and offer him from the heart, loving advice (Try not to misunderstand me here). There are, of course, expectations put on a person from birth. Will that person be ready to face the challenges?

Let me also state this: As far as I'm concerned, apart from any issues that the person has which compromise their health or happiness, I really don't think being a homosexual is someone who deserves attention more special than anyone else. I think a lot of self alleged homosexuals use the label to earn sympathy points and attention, and forget that there are people in the world to whom such things are irrelevant.

Anyway, the best advice I'm able to give you is to talk to your parents, or at least someone in your family that you trust. I think a person's sex life is very personal, whether gay or straight, or whatever, and really isn't anyone's business but that of the people involved. Before you create a potential crisis for yourself by making an announcement, make sure you've considered everyone's feelings as well as your own. Is your identity worth throwing a party over? You know better than I ever will, so I hope that you won't think you're being judged here. The best thing I can do for anyone is relate personal experience.

Hope everything is and stays good in your friend's life!

(I know damned well that just speaking on this topic creates controversy. If I should be hanged for spam baiting, remember this: Everyone is Human.)

Alseid · Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 8:02 pm Post subject:

I believe there's this japanese film called "Happy together" that adresses the subject.

I wouldn't really know because i haven't watched it, but it's rather famous.
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Gwendal · Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 8:09 pm Post subject:

I can`t really be of much help here, but what are you looking for in those stories anyway? The main point for your friend will probably be learning to deal with negative reactions from others, right? Anyway, I hope it`ll turn out well for your friend.
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Vextor · Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 8:56 pm Post subject:

I would reccomend "The Celluloid Closet" which is oddly a movie about homosexuality in movies. It shows how stereotypes against homosexuals are portrayed through movies, and that's pretty important to know. Even films that seem to be sympathetic to homosexuals may have some hidden negative symbolism hidden within. It's an educational piece that arms you with knowledge.

Axiose · Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 2:15 am Post subject:

Vextor · Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 2:47 am Post subject:

Besides, you merely asked for a good movie. So no one needs to give an entire torrent of advice when you're not asked to give one. Please stay on topic.

Saben · Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 5:07 am Post subject:

I find Billy Elliot a good movie which deals with stereotyping a lot. It's actually about a straight boy that takes up ballet, it shows how behaviour doesn't necessarily define sexual orientation. Billy also has a gay friend in the movie, it is definitely one worth watching. If your friend has the internet then I'd be glad to talk to him and/ or refer him to some websites I know. I know what a rough time one can have when coming out.

JiLtEd_LiFe · Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 7:37 am Post subject:

luc · Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 12:54 pm Post subject:

Axiose · Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 1:11 pm Post subject:

Okay so, not that you would know this but he came out to his sister when he was 11. His Dad still lived at home when he was 11. His Dad only recently left. He's recently told me & my girlfriend he's gay (actually I found it out through my girlfriend) when he's now 15. He hasn't come out to the general public yet, and as Saben has said it must be a pretty rough time coming out. Especially considering what a liberal and open-minded bunch the people are on the Isle of Man...

Considering he's never had a girlfriend, never had interest in a girl before and has for a long time had feelings towards males, I'm going to assume it's not a childhood trauma. But as SARS said

Kohaku · Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 10:15 pm Post subject:

There's a lot of french movie with story about homosexual (and some of them had porn... :shock: ).
...about bad experience, i was almost ... by one of my good friend. :shock: man! he's in my apartment wanted to watch dvd with me. I was sitting in front of the computer when he started kissing my shoulder . At first I didn't realized it until when I look around. he then pushed me to bed and stated to kiss my neck... Fortunately, I didn't lock the door. A friend come to the room and when he saw that wonderful scene he push him and hit him in his face. He then run out of the room and since then I never talked to him again.
(actually, after the incident I once saw him together with a guy in a mall with his hand around the guy's waist)
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Elc · Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 11:29 pm Post subject:

I usually steer clear of discussions like this because, whether intentional or not, somebody will almost always be offended by someone else's comment. My opinion on homosexuality, well... I don't think of it as a "normal" orientation, as procreation requires both a man and a woman, but I don't feel that anybody's sexual orientation should alter one's opinion of a person or the treatment of said person. Whether heterosexual or homosexual, we are all entitled to the same human rights as the next person.

So, in short, I don't have a problem with homosexual people as long as they don't try to force homosexuality on others. (My apologies if I have offended anybody, it certainly was not intended)
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