what's the big idea?

[Blaze Silven]

do you people notice on the news that all they are showing is stuff that the iraqi's doing, and not enough of the enemy's side of the story. is this
a faulty country or are we just cowards? give me some replys i want to know why.

[Locke]

They aren't going to show the Iraqi's side of the war on American or British television. The media is going to show stuff to get the Americans or British people ire's up. Having the media talk about innocent people being be-headed or whatnot will make most Americans angry. Thats what the millitary wants us to see. With hopes that more of the 18-30 or whatever crowd enlists in the military.

Is the same principle as whom ever wins the war gets to write the history about it. See the Alamo for example. Texas got wipped out by the Mexicans, that is the mainly only part of that battle that is agreed upon. How many Mexicans were there that invaded, how many Mexicans died is up for debate. As is how Davey Crocket and Buey died. Since the US won they died as heroes who died in battle and that gave the Texans all the motivation they needed. If Mexico woulda won Texas still maybe part of Mexico and all Texans would be taught to lova Santa Anna.

But yeah, thats simply I guess part of the spoils of victory. That and propaganda.
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[Rheo]

well, this is a war, what do you expect?
Its all about propaganda.

The thing is, both sides use propaganda. Both sides regard themselves as the "right" side and their enemy as the "evil".
In the end, the one that wins is the hero, the one that loses is the bad guys. It has been like this throughout history everywhere, it will continue to be like this.
Sad, but its true.
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[Gwendal]

[Solitude]

"The media is going to show stuff to get the Americans or British people ire's up. Having the media talk about innocent people being be-headed or whatnot will make most Americans angry. Thats what the millitary wants us to see. With hopes that more of the 18-30 or whatever crowd enlists in the military"

First off the military does not controll the media. Yeah sure the whole propaganda bit is true. All you really need to do is look in the right place and you will see some of Iraq's points of view. Just a few months ago I was watching an Iraqi civilians point of view on the war on MTV of all places!

The media in general never shows us anything really positive anyway. I'm not just talking about the war either. When have we ever seen any headlines like "Local Parade Brings Joy to Small Mexican Family" It just won't sell. Instead they will pitch the story like "Three People Murdered in Local Parade". The news won't get the ratings if it shows us positive stuff. Thats just how it is in America, everything is about money. If CNN doesn't get good ratings they don't make as much money.

As for the military involvment in Iraq most people would say that we (The American People) have been lied to by Bush. (I know this is getting political but please don't bite my head off.) Well I would much rather off him went and checked if Sudam had nuclear weapons than to do nothing even if it was just a rumor or something. Even if he did tell us he was sure just to comfort people. But now that we have taken Sudam out what are we still doing there? People have the common misconception that you can just bring the whole military back out of a country over night. There are things to be considered as to which battalions will be taken out first and if their taken out how will terrorist groups respond. That and things need to be preped.

[Sophita]

Locke, you'd have a point if the Coalition forces were countries where the government controlled the media. Unfortunately, they don't. I think the media will change depending on where you get it - obviously Fox News, and Move On are going to paint you very, very different portraits of the way things are going in Iraq.

Now, I do see your point in a way because many media oulets suck up so that they can get lucretive inside info/first questions at press conferences (ESPECIALLY with this administration)/interviews with the higher ups. But there is an equally high number of media outlets who realize that bad sells well, and worst sells even better. People like to buy negative stuff - why, I could not remotely tell you, but bad news always outsells the good. (For example, there were 900 kabillion stories on Columbine, but around 20 about how school safety was actually improving at the time.) So IMO it balances out. And there isn't a lot of full-scale blind partisanship in American media - both sites look at the Abu Gharib situation pretty darn critically. We don't have people denying it happened at all, or others saying that it's a hoax, or such.

All countries are faulty, because all people are faulty. Are we more "broke" than any other country? I'd argue no. We're just broken in different ways. :mrgreen:
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[kuwaizair]

yaryarblar....I had enough of alternivite history on friday.


I cannot say why things are as they are, for many reaons...70% of that is just not knowing or knowing how to explain.

on Iraq, lets start at the begining....like when we were friends with the one countriy and gave them weapons...because we were buddies. Its like giving me un-doable Admin Prvilages....so then I get mad beacuse some little twit (a pregnant goldfish) irked me...but you love that person. I go on a Banning spree.

or at least thats how I see the war......we helped somonme they don't like..so we're the bad guy.

seriously, I'd like to see this situation without "god in it" because without us aren't they fighting over god? not food or oil amonst themselfs.

then again, I'm moslty ignorant on world matters. To save this post from spiraling into doom...I suggest getting somone educated in the field to say somthing.

So Brithish and American TV isn't covernt what you want? Then go snag some air waves and watch their news, buy their news paper...or maybe induge in Russian/Chinese/other's news shows.

isn't that what you want?
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