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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Futch wrote:
The relation that gets to my nerves is the one that involves Futch, Sasuke, & Luc... They are always a gay trio in fanarts... Damn that unite!
I know, I hate it when I see pictures of Culgan and Seed, or Geddoe and Jacques making out..I'm not a homophobic, but that's just something that shouldn't be drawn but i guess it's for the fangirls - but how come i never see these kind of drawings with females....I'm surprised I haven't seen viki and jeane going at it or something...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I've always been a big Tir Mcdohl/Kasumi Fan. I could probably list alot of other relationships but im sure (just like you all) I could go on all day.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I doubt Tir would end up with Kasumi. Kasumi very obviously like Tir A LOT, but Tir is just treating her like an old friend. I highly doubt Tir would end up having a relationship with anyone because of his rune.

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Futch wrote:
The relation that gets to my nerves is the one that involves Futch, Sasuke, & Luc... They are always a gay trio in fanarts... Damn that unite!
I know, I hate it when I see pictures of Culgan and Seed, or Geddoe and Jacques making out..I'm not a homophobic, but that's just something that shouldn't be drawn but i guess it's for the fangirls - but how come i never see these kind of drawings with females....I'm surprised I haven't seen viki and jeane going at it or something...


LOL
at least they have interaction in the game. I mean even characters that are on different side from the start of the game till the end can get paired up...
I know a lot of the Japanese fansites are hold by girls, and there are more yaoi fans then yuri fans with girls, so...

Stampede wrote:
If they were trying to save Luc from the rabid fangirls, they could have done a better job. Like that Mango sketch on SNL where he blatantly yells "Why? WHY DOES EVERYONE THINK I'M GAY?"


Nah, they tried. but the fangirls will always find a way.
It must suck to get paired up with your twin brother XD

And your reply reminds me of this fic...
most of you have probably read this, but here's a funny fanfic where the guys from Suikoden holds the first meeting of the Secret Alliance of Suikoden Men Against Slash...
http://www.fanfiction.net/read.php?storyid=1454669
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Rheo wrote:

Dreamcaliber is where I am talking about
I am still debating whether or not if I should read the fic :D
I like Kinnison A LOT, but... a fic about him and Luca...? I am not too sure...
At least Luca/Kinnison is better than Flame Champion/Tir...

I actually have a doujin of those two, but it was only part 2 so I have no idea how they met. I actually never knew they were popular. I thought the dj was just comparing them as heros. Boy was I wrong :shock: I like the artwork though so it's not all bad. I haven't actually read her fics regarding that particular pairing, but I used to read some of her other fics.

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Of course, feel free to snatch it. (I didnt draw it myself anyway XD)
I wish Luc and Sasarai were there (True Rune Rangers... :D)
Or they could draw one of the destroyers

Thanks, I love it XD

Futch wrote:
The relation that gets to my nerves is the one that involves Futch, Sasuke, & Luc... They are always a trio in fanarts... Damn that unite!

lol, I've seen Humphrey(sp?)XFutch before, so just be thankful you haven't come across those yet. The most I've seen these three(Futch, Sasuke and Luc) do just get cuddly. I know they are a popular pair to be bottoms, but are they really popular in terms of *coughs* getting it on?

Rheo wrote:
I doubt Tir would end up with Kasumi. Kasumi very obviously like Tir A LOT, but Tir is just treating her like an old friend. I highly doubt Tir would end up having a relationship with anyone because of his rune.

It's a bit hard to tell what he thinks of her since he rarely talks, let alone change his face XD. I think that Tir for the most part is just trying to get some alone time for him to think about things. But for the most part, it's up to the player.

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I know, I hate it when I see pictures of Culgan and Seed, or Geddoe and Jacques making out..I'm not a homophobic, but that's just something that shouldn't be drawn but i guess it's for the fangirls - but how come i never see these kind of drawings with females....I'm surprised I haven't seen viki and jeane going at it or something...

If you're looking for those type of pairings try looking for any Hentai type of doujin or sites. The thing that sucks about this though is most hentai sites either have viruses or have a member fee. I'd love to find some Hentai djs of Tir and Kasumi one of these days>>
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Pyroflame wrote:
Well don't conform to the rest of society and think being gay is wrong. Cause society is stupid. (Society follows the media, which is certainly bullshit).


hate to be mean, but "don't be stupid"
omg....you just flamed people, in a cryptic fashion. did you know some religions say homosexual relationships are evil? Like somone needs a banning, and i'm sure 20% of the visitors here are of that religon.
why do you think that prison torture claptrap was so bad? because those people don't belive in homsexuality, and making them pile ontop of eachother naked is condoning it.

hardyharhar...yes faithy beliefs are as bullshit as the media, like how people think Jeasus was white and spoke the "Queen's English"

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as for Yuber, as a Demonic Entidy I think he would be more of a rapest, even though he's most a sadist, getting his jollys from harming people (there is in fact, oh fighters of love thy sexuality, people who have "crush fetishes", they get sexualy excited by things such as smoshing Hampsters with cinder blocks)

anway if Yuber ever does get a bit...."yiffy" I think hed just violently rape somthing or hump somone's leg.

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you people also have to take into consideration behaviors of fops and those 17 centuray beauty lover guys....pansys and fops and the likes...I don't know much on this subject, but they are just human peacocks.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I like/am open to a lot of different pairings in the game, because I rather enjoy romance, though I really don't like to be 'fed' romance couplings by a game (like when a main character adventurer, always male, has to be coupled with the main female healer/mage with no personality. That happens far too often for me in RPGs I only like the pairing when I really like the characters).

I enjoy it when a person well-familiar with the suikoden world finds an in-game interaction or compatible background information, and uses the dynamics in that interaction/information to explain a pairing people might not have otherwise thought of. This goes for Hetero, Yuri, Yaoi, almost anything. (Luca/Kinnison is a little beyond that though. *shudder* I have yet to understand any real underlying reason for that one.) But I have couplings of almost every genre that I think are sweet/romantic. I understand people who don't like the couples I like, because I'm sure others like couplings I'm not fond of too. whatever floats your boat is fine, I think... with some boundaries. But someone else probably, no positively, likes what I think is waaay beyond decent, so you know, I won't say anything to tear appart what they read/write as long as it's on paper, and I don't have to read it or remotely approve of it.

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i guess it's for the fangirls - but how come i never see these kind of drawings with females....I'm surprised I haven't seen viki and jeane going at it or something...



*laugh* Dude, If you haven't seen those two paired, you haven't flipped through enough japanese fansites. The Japanese Suikoden search sites and rings include almost any pairing you can immagine, including quite a bit of Yuri. (And I've seen an oddly large number of Viki/anyone sites. Though I don't tend to like them much...)
And there are females who like Yuri too... they just like it for romance more than eye-candy... or possibly have a matching preference? Whatever, that's really up to them. er... me? I'm female, and I sometimes read yuri stuff... hmm....
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

nobody's mentioned ellie & riuo yet. id say thats one of the most obvious of the un-obvious.

But i dont know about all these couplings. im not saying some couldnt happen, but we need a little more proof than two people of the same sex who like to hang out together. we could say that all the blacksmiths are gay, but really ive found myself drawing conclusions.

... i mean, for no reason at all, whilst daydreaming in my political geography class I thought of Krike and Lorelai hooking up just cuz Lorelai inherited Kirkes schythe. Sometimes its as simple as that and conclusions are drawn. i can see some people hooking up but they all lack substance and they're all longshots. ive got many close friends that are female (not to brag ya know) but people have thought we were together just cuz of the amount of time we hanged out (hanged? thats totally out of context)

the only surefire way to know is if the person makes it blatantly clear. we cant confuse friendship with love, (we all know the kinda trouble that gets us into :roll: ) like camus & mik, i thought they were just close, how would 2 factions of knights feel when they found out their two respected leaders loved each other. and seed and culgan, i always thought they were just a good pair (as in teamwork kind of pair) and got a lot of stuff down working as a team and percival....the thought never crossed my mind....never

but yeah, going waaay back to page 1. the thought of Oulan being lesbian did cross my mind. but godforbid her for being strong and muscular and not liking it when some low down street urchins beat up riou just cuz he was pimpin 5 ladies at once

but in my mind, i think shes straight. not like it'd matter. Oulans still my favorite character and i'd marry her even if she was homosexual......(wait a minute... :shock: what did i just say?)
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

The sexuality isn't necesary it just adds that extra little bit of humor and frustration needed.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

"omg....you just flamed people, in a cryptic fashion. did you know some religions say homosexual relationships are evil?"

If you want to bring that into play, then technically everyone is wrong. But who says religion is perfect? It's not. It's a way to explin what we don't know. Nothing more. And I don't mean to offend anyone who believes strongly in their religion, that's just how I look at it.

I'm not saying I won't accept your beliefs either, I'm just telling you what I think. The last time I checked, That was the purpose of a forum. But I guess I was wrong.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

First of all yall are deep about this
secound what really is yaoi or yoai cause i hear hentai or manga.
third is konami can't have homo or lesbian stuff cause Suikoden are rated Teen
cause if it was rated mature it will go wild.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Yaoi = writing/manga featuring male/male pairings
Yuri = writing/manga featuring female/female pairings
hentai = writing/manga featuring pornographic male/female materials.
manga = Japanese word for cartoons.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

It's what makes this game fun in terms of romance. everyone is pretty much possible unless Konami says otherwise. Heck, I've seen pairings with even married couples doing it with the same sex and incest before. So I doubt these people care about being a good religious person.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

:shock: Luca? gay? :shock: NOOOOOOOOOOO *cowers in corner in fetal position*

when i first layed eyes on the game (my uncle introduced me, i was hooked ever since) i thought Luc was a girl if you look at his picture for a long time, he definetly (<~~hahaha can't spell that word) has girly-like looks, for all we know, he could be gay (or Bi, like Yuber said, it could be anybody)




:| it really could be a character that we all thought was really macho (Luca, for instance)
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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Camus: Next we have Culgan and Seed, the two lackeys of the great Luca Blight.

Seed: **looks to Culgan**

Culgan **looks to Seed**

Both: Meh.


Hehe I love that fic.
I don't really mind slash, some are pretty good. Especially some of the art :D
I think every fandom has this backlash. The people who hate slash in general or slash in their fandom.
Aw come on, who hasn't seen the Albert/Caesar couplings? It's incest but the masses are screaming for it (I'm not though it is funny to watch)
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

i like suggesting awfull, bad and wrong or "wrong" parings. or at least the undesired ones that make you go 0_o.

sebastion and Gullimune (sorry i cannot spell)

Kirkus and um...Leon.......yeah.

oh well, I say Shrio likes humans
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