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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I'm 100% sure on Boris/Ridley bit. Abizboah is SoD, but Rulodia is not. So if you get Rulodia, then you'd miss out on the other animal SoD ^^ and therefore cannot get all 108 SoD.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Even if Rulodia were a star, which she isn't, then you'd miss out on recruiting Ayda by getting both the mollusks anyway.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Time for this to end now.

Suikosource wrote:

In order to save Nanami and see the "best" ending, you must first gather the 108 Stars of Destiny before choosing to invade Rockaxe. You will know you have accomplished this task if Leknaat appears during the rally and unlocks the fourth level spell of the Bright Shield, Forgiver Sign. Then Nanami must have a total DEF value of 121 or greater (you can use equipment to boost her DEF) when she and Riou reach Gorudo during the siege of Matilda Castle. Then you must select either dialogue option when she is deflecting the arrows; there is a time limit for this dialogue selection. Afterwards, Huan should have a private word with Shu after he claims to have failed to save Nanami. Please note that Nanami will still be unavailable for the rest of the game.
With that being said, in order to see Nanami alive you must get the "best" ending, which consists of not entering the meeting room in your castle but instead going to Tenzan Pass to meet Jowy at the place the friends swore to wait for each other if separated. Do not defeat Jowy in the duels he forces upon Riou, and when he tries to give you his true rune, keep rejecting it. Eventually, the end sequence will start
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Two unmentioned points:

1. You need to make sure Nanami's defense stat is high - you can do this by having her at about the same level as Riou at Rockaxe, and equipping her with fairly powerful armour, this is the gameplay aspect of the event.

2. You must select "Nanami!" instead of ". . ." when Nanami attempts to protect Riou and Jowy, you only have a certain amount of time to do this in, so be sure to press down and enter quickly.

Of course having all 108 stars of destiny is a requirement, having all these should ensure Nanami stays alive, although you'd think she died the way the game hides it.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Wes wrote:
Two unmentioned points:

1. You need to make sure Nanami's defense stat is high - you can do this by having her at about the same level as Riou at Rockaxe, and equipping her with fairly powerful armour, this is the gameplay aspect of the event.

2. You must select "Nanami!" instead of ". . ." when Nanami attempts to protect Riou and Jowy, you only have a certain amount of time to do this in, so be sure to press down and enter quickly.

Of course having all 108 stars of destiny is a requirement, having all these should ensure Nanami stays alive, although you'd think she died the way the game hides it.


Wrong. The only requirements are:

    *Nanami DEF 121 or higher.
    *All 108 Stars of Destiny.
    *Select either dialogue option before it dissappears.


That is it. You know you did it right when Huan asks to talk to Shu after Nanami "dies."
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Well the second text option only works for me when I did it. :)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Wes wrote:
Well the second text option only works for me when I did it. :)


There's a time limit when you pick between the choices. You only have half a second to pick your choice. You may have not chosen the option fast enough to make it work.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Zonder wrote:
Wes wrote:
Two unmentioned points:

1. You need to make sure Nanami's defense stat is high - you can do this by having her at about the same level as Riou at Rockaxe, and equipping her with fairly powerful armour, this is the gameplay aspect of the event.

2. You must select "Nanami!" instead of ". . ." when Nanami attempts to protect Riou and Jowy, you only have a certain amount of time to do this in, so be sure to press down and enter quickly.

Of course having all 108 stars of destiny is a requirement, having all these should ensure Nanami stays alive, although you'd think she died the way the game hides it.


Wrong. The only requirements are:

    *Nanami DEF 121 or higher.
    *All 108 Stars of Destiny.
    *Select either dialogue option before it dissappears.


That is it. You know you did it right when Huan asks to talk to Shu after Nanami "dies."


i also heard updating the suikoden 1 data with all 108 stars also helps it out.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

no that has nothing to do with the requirements for the ending, i have managed to get the perfect ending without even having a copy of Suikoden 1 in my home.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

You can't get the good 108 Stars ending with Boris, I tried.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Fudozukushi wrote:
You can't get the good 108 Stars ending with Boris, I tried.


Yes, you can. I've done it at least ten times. (not 'cause I hate Ridley, mind you, but because I get a kick out of seeing Shu slap the hero)
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El Regrs wrote:
Fudozukushi wrote:
You can't get the good 108 Stars ending with Boris, I tried.


Yes, you can. I've done it at least ten times. (not 'cause I hate Ridley, mind you, but because I get a kick out of seeing Shu slap the hero)


I wasn't able to.... stupid game.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

AA wrote:
Time for this to end now.

Suikosource wrote:

In order to save Nanami and see the "best" ending, you must first gather the 108 Stars of Destiny before choosing to invade Rockaxe. You will know you have accomplished this task if Leknaat appears during the rally and unlocks the fourth level spell of the Bright Shield, Forgiver Sign. Then Nanami must have a total DEF value of 121 or greater (you can use equipment to boost her DEF) when she and Riou reach Gorudo during the siege of Matilda Castle. Then you must select either dialogue option when she is deflecting the arrows; there is a time limit for this dialogue selection. Afterwards, Huan should have a private word with Shu after he claims to have failed to save Nanami. Please note that Nanami will still be unavailable for the rest of the game.
With that being said, in order to see Nanami alive you must get the "best" ending, which consists of not entering the meeting room in your castle but instead going to Tenzan Pass to meet Jowy at the place the friends swore to wait for each other if separated. Do not defeat Jowy in the duels he forces upon Riou, and when he tries to give you his true rune, keep rejecting it. Eventually, the end sequence will start


That's all there is to it folks. Nothing more. Nothing less. If you did not get the good ending then you failed at one of the above points and just didn't realize it. Since there's nothing more to discuss here, I believe we're done.

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