View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
kleibert
Joined: 24 May 2004
Post Count: 21
500 Potch
0 Soldiers
0 Nation Points
|
Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 9:58 am Post subject: weird hikusaak? |
|
|
Well, what we know about hikusaak is that he is (or was?) the ruler of Harmonia. But something about him is strange : about the law which says that every first class citizens of Harmonia should have blond hair, or the most of them. But if Sasarai and Luc are clones of Hikusaak, this one must have, like them, dark hair. So why the ruler of Harmonia put a law like this (maybe the word "law" is wrong, call it as you want) if himself doesn't suit to it? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
kuwaizair
blauuurgggh!
Joined: 22 May 2004
Post Count: 3427
Location: Plaats
174392 Potch
0 Soldiers
1291 Nation Points
|
Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:55 pm Post subject: |
|
|
somone said that prehaps, when he left whom ever else is in power changed the rule. or it could be some refferance to toher thigns. _________________ few runes short of a set of 27
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
runemaster
The Arrows Of New Armes
Joined: 09 Dec 2004
Post Count: 1613
Location: Somewhere in New Armes with Masaya
11500 Potch
0 Soldiers
0 Nation Points
|
Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:46 pm Post subject: |
|
|
yes i think Kuwaizer is right but what i would love to know is where Hikusaak is. _________________ -Harmonian Tensoku star-
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
Noot
Faithers of the Defend
Joined: 19 Aug 2004
Post Count: 3748
Location: The Holy Kingdom of Harmonia
186551 Potch
0 Soldiers
0 Nation Points
|
Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:10 am Post subject: |
|
|
I always am reminded of Hitler with this topic. He said the dominant race was those with blonde hair and blue eyes, yet he himself did not fit his own criteria. I'm not saying Harmonians are supposed to represent the Nazis and Hikusaak symbolizes Hitler, but I just think one could draw a comparison here.
(In fact, like Hikusaak, many believe Hitler is simply missing and not dead. Or his brain is kept inside a glass jar or something like that. Hmm...) _________________ ~~Harmonian Tenhei Star~~
It's hard to bargle naudle zauss with all these marbles in my mouth. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Axiose
Altruistic Apparitions
Joined: 24 May 2004
Post Count: 19502
100019091 Potch
0 Soldiers
0 Nation Points
|
Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:27 am Post subject: |
|
|
Yeah, I wouldn't think that Hikusaak having darker hair would effect his status. After all Sasarai doesn't have blonde hair (obviously). _________________
[Axiose] [Fliktor] |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Camus the Noble
Les Renés
Joined: 24 Sep 2005
Post Count: 1881
Location: Vinay Del Zexay
1056014 Potch
224 Soldiers
0 Nation Points
|
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 4:58 pm Post subject: |
|
|
From what I understand, Hikusaak is thought of as somewhat godly. Thus, Harmonians reason that he (and his clones) are not subject to the same criteria of goodliness that mere mortals are.
A simpler explanation could be that there is some doublethinking going on here, as the average Harmonian believes
a) blond people are, invariably, the best people in the world, and
b) Hikusaak, who has dark hair, is the best person in the world.
It's not impossible for governments to instill conflicting views into its citizens, especially if the government has had as much time as Hikusaak's has.
It'll be interesting to see if the Harmonia-Nazi Germany metaphor follows through, and Hikusaak is portrayed to be a Hitleresque figure. I think, that when Harmonia is the central villain in one of the games, it'll probably turn out that way, with the "gray" moral area fulfilled by Sasarai or Dios (or someone totally new). |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Wataru
The Light Fantastic
Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Post Count: 2105
59113 Potch
0 Soldiers
515589 Nation Points
|
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:21 am Post subject: |
|
|
Harmonia, I believe, is based on the USSR. Expansion that brings with it a drastic change in government/social politics, satelite states, etc. etc. Although the Nazi parallels are quite interesting.
Hikusaak and Sasarai are both clergy, however, and it is likely that clergy are not subject to the same rules as everyone else. Often religious figures exist in a social level outside of regular class systems and would be able to have status of their own even if they don't fit into the established guidelines. It could also be a case of "Hikusaak has earned the right to be our leader through his deeds, so we'll make an exception just this once and give him status." It was also not widely known that Luc and Sasarai are his clones (Sasarai didn't know himsefl until Luc told him), so they probably got their ranks based on deeds also, or Hikusaak's endorsement. _________________
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
Scarlet Assassin
Disciples of Death
Joined: 08 Mar 2005
Post Count: 5509
Location: Xasta Grassland
331436 Potch
0 Soldiers
2442517 Nation Points
|
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 2:02 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I believe SARS once stated that the temple faction is exempt from this criteria, thus explaining why Luc and Sasarai are left out of this criteria. The reason Hikusaak chose that is because he flipped the socail classes upside dwon, meaning that at the very bottom of Aronian society, there were blonde haired individuals. This implies that Hikusaak was some sort of upperclassman that took pity upon the lower class and led them against Aronia; and that after noticing the virtue of these citizens, awarded them first class citizenship of Harmonia. That however, is just another one of Scarlet Assassin's crazy theories. _________________
Chief of Beat-em-up Honeys Division, Devoted Protector of Lady Tifa Lockhart |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Zaj I mean Mike
I just sell weapons
Joined: 04 Mar 2005
Post Count: 371
500 Potch
0 Soldiers
0 Nation Points
|
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 6:14 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I think that if Hikusaak was the one that made though laws then it was just that blondes were the majority.So to manipulaty them he made them think they were the greatest a little flatery goes a long ways. _________________ Three Billion
Chinese
Can't Be Wrong
CLERKS |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Scarlet Assassin
Disciples of Death
Joined: 08 Mar 2005
Post Count: 5509
Location: Xasta Grassland
331436 Potch
0 Soldiers
2442517 Nation Points
|
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:58 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I'm sorry if I wasn't clear Zaj, but it's a canonical fact that Hikusaak took the social structure, as far as class goes at least, and flipped them upside down. That means that since non-humans and dark haired humans are at the bottom of the social ladder in Harmonia, it was the other way around in Aronia. Blonde haired citizens were, 99% certainly, at the bottom of the food chain in Aronia. _________________
Chief of Beat-em-up Honeys Division, Devoted Protector of Lady Tifa Lockhart |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Zaj I mean Mike
I just sell weapons
Joined: 04 Mar 2005
Post Count: 371
500 Potch
0 Soldiers
0 Nation Points
|
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:38 am Post subject: |
|
|
How do you know that blondes were the minority.No one said where Aronia was they could have been every one.After he made them feel good he spreaded.
They have never said what Aronia was like.It may have been the greatest niceses Kingdom.Look at how Harmonia talks about him he could easly have changed history.
And if they liked Aronia he talks about how great they are.Even if they dont come around their kids would,look at how some blacks and the mexicas love Jesus.In school every one yelled at me because I'm not relious but their anectors were forced beatin raped and killed before they warship but now their kids are the most relious.
After he got them to warship him like that he could expand looking for true runes after a while there are more dark hair people and non-humans.Since they were beaten down he did'nt have to appease them so left the socail system as is. So he has some people praising him and some hating him but to scared to say any thing it is prefect atleast for his goal. _________________ Three Billion
Chinese
Can't Be Wrong
CLERKS |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|
|