Leknaat's Character Development

[VikiFanatic]

[Rune hunter]

[Parallax]

[Rainrir]

Well from what I see, the link between the Dragon, Front/Back Gate, Pale Gate and ,if Yuber really has it, Eightfold (I think some sources say it and Yuber has something to do with the World of Emptiness) Runes are that they are all Runes that involve some kind of access or power to other "planes" or "dimensions".

Dragon: World of Wings and Scales

Gate: Pretty much grants the wielder access to almost all "planes"

Pale Gate: Supposedly spawn of the Gate Rune, Summons monesters.

Eightfold: (CONJUCTURE) linked to the world of Emptiness

From these we can make a few conjuctures:

-These Runes are all involved with other "planes" of the Suikoden World, perhaps an common property of all the "plane" Runes is that they can allow the bearer to teleport around the place.

This can account for how Windy, Leknaat, Sarah and Yuber can move around by teleportation. It can also explain WHY Tir, Lazlo, Arshtat and the 3 True Elemental Rune bearers (True Lightning, Water and Fire) cannot use teleportation.

However, the big twist comes when we talk about people like Joshua, Neclord/Sierra and Luc.
-By that conjucture, Joshua is supposed to be able to teleport around since his "dragon" rune is suppose to have access to other "planes"(WoW&S). However, we never see him display such power..of course, just because he doesn't do it doesn't mean he can't...heh. This cannot disprove this theory.

-Neclord certainity displayed a few instances of being able to teleport, but the only time I can remember him teleporting is during the battle against him in S2. Now, the Blue Moon Rune is not KNOWN to have power over other "planes" like the Gate Rune etc, so it kinda throws this theory in wreck.

-I cannot remember if Luc and Sasarai can teleport. We only see Sasrai a few games(S3, SG2 AND S2) and his actions in both are limted. Luc never displayed any teleport prowess in S1 and S2, and Sarah and him are practically jointed at the hip...making it impossible to determine if he can teleport at all (I cannot remeber if he ever teleported alone). If both cannot teleport, then my theory still stands.

Now if we can only figure out why some mages (without "planar" runes) can teleport and how does Blue Moon Rune fit into this picture then we are rather set...I think.

[Ninjar]

You seem to forget that the Soul Eater does grant the power of teleportation. Ted's grandfather uses it to teleport everyone into the hidden passageway before he gives Ted the Soul Eater.

So instead os saying that it is simply a matter of the rune, one might say that it is a matter of mastery over the rune. Some of these people have had their runes for hundreds of years. That would give them a deeper insight into what it could do.

[VikiFanatic]

That may be true, or the fact that some of these people have the power of sorcery like Sarah. Sorcery and rune magic are different things, so i t may be rooted from that as well. Leknaat may know the basic magick of teleportation or it may stem from the Gate Rune. Luc may have known it through training in a manner of magic power and not be the runes.
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[Ujitsuna]

[Rainrir]

Ah...yea...so I guess that theory is out.


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I wonder how many things like this is actually not thought out at the start of the Suikoden Series....I mean, I was supposed to be a one-shot game.. :oops:
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[LeSquide]

These are my thoughts on Leknaat's power and influence, rather than the more general topic of the various Gate Runes, worlds, et all.

There are many threads throughout the Suikoden games that don't quite connect, and many situations that don't add up, but I think the Suikoden World's chronology gives us a viable, sensible picture when we examine Leknaat.

In our 'earliest' (chronology-wise) views of her, she is a powerful individual. She commands the respect of mysterious, mighty figures such as Zerase, she intervenes directly, and she doesn't recieve aid from anyone else.

Then, for some reason, she absconds with Luc from Harmonia. Now, previously, Leknaat a powerful free being. She would act through agents, such as Zerase, but she gives orders, and they are followed unquestioningly. Her knowledge of the world's nature seems complete, and she moves quickly and gracefully through IV and Vs worlds.
In I, II, and III, though, we see no indirect agents; merely Luc. Why does she need him?

Windy, while never inactive, has a plan that peaks during Suikoden I. Leknaat is unable to oppose her magic without help from the True Dragon Rune, when we've seen not a hint of magical weakness in her IV and V appearances.

For whatever reason, Leknaat's strength is degrading, and her control over agents such as Zerase is fading (perhaps as they recognize the failure of her power.) This may have been part of Windy's plan, or even 'just' a consequence of direct conflict with her sister and the Gate Rune. Regardless, she is personally weaker.

This means that recruiting Luc is a sensible measure, not only to remove him Harmonia for some Balance-preserving purpose, but both to bring more mystical 'firepower' to her efforts to keep the Balance when it is so dramatically opposed...and possible even to train a True-Rune bearing successor.

In Suikoden II, Luc almost functions at Leknaat's proxy, not only bearing the Tablet for the Hero once again, but also intervening to prevent Harmonian interference in the form of Sasari's forces from ending the war. It looks like he may indeed be a suitable replacement!

...But in III, we see that Leknaat's efforts to secure a successor have failed. Luc desires not the Balance, but rather to preserve Free Will and prevent a fate that may or may not befall the world due to the True Runes. Leknaat has no more agents such as Zerase (or, perhaps, not the means to convince them to serve her) and her mystical power has not risen to its peak; it seems that she is nearing the end of her days as an effective protector of the balance, and only the Flame Champion's legacy prevents Luc from shattering the balance (and a true rune, and a whole freakin' continent) without her intervention.