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I aggree with John there can only be one tenkai star otherwise the whole system would be thrown into chaos.
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Would two tenkai's be possible if the characters were twins?? The star system has to do with the time/date of birth correct??
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| Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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A Tenkai Star doesn't have to die for another to take his or her place. Tir was still alive when Riou became Tenkai in Suikoden II and made an appearance. I think that's as close to there being "two Tenkai Stars" as we're gonna get.
I doubt the twins theory would make a difference as, just because people are born as twins, does not mean they were born at the same time. It can be minutes or hours before the second twin is born, so even the date won't necessarily be the same.
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John Layfield
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| Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Would two tenkai's be possible if the characters were twins?? The star system has to do with the time/date of birth correct?? |
No.
Just because two people are born under the Tenkai Star does not mean that there can be more than one Tenkai Star of Destiny at any one point. Tir McDohl and Riou's lives cross over one another but they were not both Tenkai Stars of Destiny for both wars, for example.
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TruePerception
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| Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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A Tenkai star having a twin would be interesting though, but whether he is on your side or against you, who knows. It could go either way. If with you, I think Tenjyu Star would make sense (tends to be someone close to the Tenkai, with a family-type bond)
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| Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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| John Layfield wrote: |
| There can only be one Tenkai at a time, so one would have to be removed. |
What if they were twins. or even conjoined twins.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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| There can only be one Tenkai at a time, so one would have to be removed. |
What if they were twins. or even conjoined twins. |
They're still two people. Only one person is allowed to a star. |
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| Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:10 am Post subject: |
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| Waw that so interesting about having twin tenkai, but it will be more like soap opera than a game....hahahahahaha no..no... kidding...just thinking that the other twin come in the middle of game...and drama begin !!! hehehe |
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Patriarch
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| Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:23 am Post subject: |
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| Hayashi Ujitsuna wrote: |
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| There can only be one Tenkai at a time, so one would have to be removed. |
What if they were twins. or even conjoined twins. |
They're still two people. Only one person is allowed to a star. |
What if they were conjoined at the brain. Would they REALLY be to different people then? Or if they were regular twins with a colective mind.
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| Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:42 am Post subject: |
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| There can only be one Tenkai at a time, so one would have to be removed. |
What if they were twins. or even conjoined twins. |
They're still two people. Only one person is allowed to a star. |
What if they were conjoined at the brain. Would they REALLY be to different people then? Or if they were regular twins with a colective mind. |
Ask science, this has nothing to do with Suikoden. |
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| Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:49 am Post subject: |
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| There can only be one Tenkai at a time, so one would have to be removed. |
What if they were twins. or even conjoined twins. |
They're still two people. Only one person is allowed to a star. |
What if they were conjoined at the brain. Would they REALLY be to different people then? Or if they were regular twins with a colective mind. |
I feel somebody clutching at straws here.
There is only ever one Tenkai. It's like asking what if there were two Tenki's, there just isn't. There's one Tenki and one Chikai. The closest we usually get to another Tenkai in game is the Tengou.
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| Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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| There can only be one Tenkai at a time, so one would have to be removed. |
What if they were twins. or even conjoined twins. |
They're still two people. Only one person is allowed to a star. |
What if they were conjoined at the brain. Would they REALLY be to different people then? Or if they were regular twins with a colective mind. |
Ask science, this has nothing to do with Suikoden. |
dont shoot it down just because you dont have an awnser.
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| Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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Okay, this got off track once we got into the conjoined twins end of this conversation. Let's not all get snarky with one another and bring this back to the topic, shall we? *smiles*
Me personally, I think it would be an interesting thing if the Tenkai star had a twin. Granted it would go into the realm of soap opera, but as long as it was well characterized and the story was told well, it is feasible. Astrologically speaking, it is possible for twins to be born within minutes of one another and have planetary alignments that would signal possible differences in their personalities - I don't see how the stars would act any differently.
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| Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Patriarch wrote: |
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| What if they were twins. or even conjoined twins. |
They're still two people. Only one person is allowed to a star. |
What if they were conjoined at the brain. Would they REALLY be to different people then? Or if they were regular twins with a colective mind. |
Ask science, this has nothing to do with Suikoden. |
dont shoot it down just because you dont have an awnser. |
He shot it down because it's stupid.
If two bodies shared one brain, they would not be two people, it'd be one person with a completely redundant body attached, it's scientifically bogus.
And if you're talking about two different people somehow tapping into only one mind between the two, then that's even more ludicrous!
But, just because I'm a-nice-a guy...
I would wager that the mind itself would be established as the star. In other words, there would not be two people down as the star.
EDIT: Geddoe, yes yes, it's very well possible for someone, it doesn't even have to be a twin, to be born under the Tenkai Star. It doesn't make them the Tenkai Star of Destiny for Particular War Requiring Stars of Destiny. At best, you'd get a jealously subplot from the non-Tenkai twin.
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TruePerception
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| Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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I would like to see the Tenkai have a twin with a different star, remaining as a fixed element. Maybe non-identical twins, though, so it doesn't get redundant.
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