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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:42 pm    Post subject: Question about Lorelai and the Ruins in Twilight Forest (Spo Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Does the game later elaborate on what may have happened to Lorelai during his visit to the Sindar Ruins in Twilight Forest? When coming across that trap that was set off and leaving a huge skylight, she says "I don't want to talk about it." Just wondering if the game does elaborate
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Well, here's what I can figure out:

- Lorelai and Killey got stuck, somehow, in that room in the Twilight Forest. (Obaro Investigation on Lorelai)

- Viki (possibly from Suikogaiden?) pops in and somehow in doing so opens up a HUGE hole in the ceiling. (Obaro)

- Lorelai and Killey somehow escape. (Obaro)

- Lorelai keeps teasing Viki about it now, but Viki from Suikoden V is not the Viki of Suikoden II (yet); she doesn't know what Lorelai is talking about, and is kind of weirded out by her. (Viki Letter, Lorelai/Viki/Zweig bath scene) Haven't seen word yet if Killey recognizes Viki or not.

- I think the whole event is from one of the Suikogaidens, where Viki teleports Nash, Meg, Millie, etc. all over in space and time. They do see Lorelai and Killey, but what is said there I do not know. :/ Does anyone have a summary of what happens in that point?

That's all I've gotten so far. Personally, I'm rather curious how Lorelai and Killey wound up working together in the first place, as there seems to be a strong mutual apathy towards one another ("You're taking HER?" "Oh, Killey's coming? Fine, well, we'll just all have to watch our backs now.").
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

You can see some pictures of the scene in Suikogaiden here: http://www.suikosource.com/games/gaiden2/3b/index.php

Does anyone have a translation of the dialog in this scene involving Killey and Lorelai?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

SPOILERS(higlight)


Oboro Investagtion:

"On one of her "expeditions," she wound up trapped in the Deep
Twilight Forest's ruins... with Killey. She won't say how they
got out, but I heard her mumble something about Viki. But Viki...
well, Viki sounds clueless about it."

So we know that Viki DID indeed go to the ruins with Nash and what not....

BATH SCENE:
Viki: It wasn't me!

Lorelai: Look, quit being so stubborn and just admit it! I know it was
you! The Deep Twilight Forest, down in the ruins -- YOU'RE
the one I saw there!

Viki: It wasn't me! How many times do I have to say it?!

Lorelai: Oh, I see... It was some OTHER airhead with teleportation
powers and your clothes!

Viki: I said it wasn't me!

Lorelai: You little...

Zweig: Now, hold on, Lorelai. We can't just assume that she's lying.

Viki: Eeeek!

Lorelai: Wh-- Z-Zweig?!

Zweig: What's the matter? Don't mind me. Please, continue.

Viki: Wh-What is HE doing here?

Lorelai: What ARE you doing here?

Zweig: Really, carry on. Just pretend I'm not here.

Lorelai: But you ARE here, in the women's bath!

Viki: Y-Yeah!

Zweig: *sigh* So ridiculous. Lorelai, listen to reason. Say you're passing
by in front of the men's bath...and you happen to overhear me
talking about...oh, something to do with the Sindar. What would
you do? Honestly.

Lorelai: Honestly? Sneak in and listen.
Viki: You'd what?!
Zweig: So now we're on the same page.
Lorelai: Heh. Guess you're right.
Viki: He's right? What are you talking about?
Lorelai: Sorry for making such a fuss.
Zweig: Oh, that's all right. I'm glad we completely understand each other.
Viki: Wha...? You guys are weird!
Zweig: You're hardly one to talk.
Lorelai: That's for sure.
Viki: Eeeeeek! I can't take this anymore! *poof*
Zweig: ...And there she goes.
Lorelai: Great. You scared her off.

As dopey, as Viki is, I'm sure she would remeber such an event. She Vaugley remebers Tir, in suikoden II. And with that we can confrim suikoden V VIki, occured before suikogaiden Viki.

But this only raises more questions. Viki mentions, "That Jeane woman, we keep meeting in eacher...." and she also says before the last battle that "I hope I can eat before the big battle, I always go away before hand..." If this Viki isn't the suikogaiden viki, it can't be suikoden II viki or suikoden I viki. So does this mean that between suikoden IV and V other revolutions happend? If you want an even bigger headace consider the bath scene between viki and Jean in IV.

The suikogaiden recap wasn't very...understanable at suikosource, I always figured that Meg or Mille blasted the door down...

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Georg_Prime, all it says on the page Zaloopa linked on the topic is:

Quote:
Now they're in the Falena Queendom of the past with Killey and Lorelai...


If that's not the recap you're talking about, where is the recap you're talking about? 0.o
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