True Runes (no. of)

melange · Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:20 am Post subject: True Runes (no. of)

Since for the last two Suikodens, IV and V, they only introduced one True Rune per game, Rune of Punishment and Sun Rune respectively and especially since they've now begun introducing these 'one of a kind runes' like the Dawn, Twilight and Star runes so there's still the feel of runes clashing with each other to balance off the fact of there being only a single True Rune introduced, I'm beginning to think Konami is going to continue with this 'one new True Rune per game' trend so that they can stretch out the franchise as long as they can. So I think the next Suikoden may only really have one new True Rune. I really hope I'm proved wrong tho...
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Hawk Thanatos · Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:08 am Post subject:

I hope that's the case, Suikoden III annoyed me to no end by revealing 5 new runes but not really focusing on any of them except a little bit of history.

Keep in mind we've got a limited number of true runes available to us. :(

Bright Shield Rune bearer · Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:00 am Post subject:

I was thinking about True Runes the other day... and i thought. Why couldn't they use old runes to reperesent them in new 'liht' or something like that. Cause i would really like to se more of Sasarai and True Earth, Moon rune and ofcourse the begining (soul eater is too much cause it was in I, II and IV)..

Anyways... for new runes... i think that there shoul be Flora rune or something like that, Cuse Beast Rune was reperesentativ for animals and savage part of nature.

But it's still too early to speculate about this...or not. Cause Suikoden 5 hitted us really soon after Tactics.
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Yam Koo · Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:26 am Post subject:

Well, in my opinion I like the idea of only getting one main rune, while getting a few lesser runes to support it. It shows that there will be more on the single runes history. Too many runes means that their indivisual histories will be less. I pretty much said what hawlthanatos. But I agree with him.

Vextor · Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:32 am Post subject:

Yeah, I was thinking that they might try to "go back" to some of the runes used in the past, but were not really on the "hero's side." For example, the Night, Moon, Sovereign, and Beast runes. The Beast Rune would be perfect for any plot centered around the Higheast Rebellion.

Blazing Camp · Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:22 am Post subject:

I like the idea of going back to to some older True Runes and getting more of a backstory. There's still the issue of where the True Wind and Beast Rune are at, as well as the "MIA" Soverigen and Back Gate rune(or was it the front, have'nt played SuikoI in a while)

As for a new rune, I'd like to see something that shows powers of Space or Gravity. Or something funky like that:P

Bright Shield Rune bearer · Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:43 am Post subject:

Soul Eater brought up the theme of Life and death.

Begining was talking about two aspekts that world lies on, offcourse about creation it self, their rival aspekt and brotherhood. Or should i say just yin-yan theory.

Elemnt runes were reperesenting nature and the concept of harmony .
The harmony of elemnts they create although they're so diferrent ( Fire/Water - Hugo/Chris [although enemys two of them, they had to combine their forces to beat up the 'bad' guy... just ], Wind/Earth - Luc/Sasarai...etc)

Punishment was representing Man's psihological side and his power of judging what's good and what's bad. The rune it self reflected bearers personality and in the end 'punishing' or 'forgiving' him.

Every rune has it's methaforical meaning, i supose that Sun rune too has h.ell of a story... i'll see it when i beat the game.

So folowing this mesanings i would love to se something that touches themes of people emotions and their control over them.
I always find it interessting how people control their emotions in ceratain curcemstances. Their side of story etc.
So how about rune that has influence over that, giving it's bearer power to see into people hearts.

This type of rune wouldn't be good for main character but it would be good to see it on somebody like leknaat.
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Skooboi · Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:12 am Post subject:

Beast Rune could easily have a very sad story written for it. The rune takes sacrifices and blood, I wouldn't be surprised if there existed some other runes like the Twilight and Dawn rune to surpress it. Compared to the other runes, the Sun rune is extremely strong, decimating a whole town with the potential of an entire country. I guess this was what Luc was trying to go for?

Bright Shield Rune bearer · Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:22 am Post subject:

Omg... i read it and spoiled bit of story of 5 :(

anyways... the more i read posts of fans the more i see that there are some really creative ideas among our discussions.

It's sad that Konami's stuff si ignoring the main suikoden story puting up new parts of series just to pick up money. weather they're good or bad (IV , V) they're missing thing's that we're all interested in....

(Pesmerga, Yuber .. runes thar disappeared misterously..etc)
If they abandon the roots of main storyline for Suikoden series it's gonna suck big time.
I mean common, who doesn't want to see what happened to Windy and barbarossa and what happened to two true runes, what happened with Sasarai
, who Leknaat really is and so on ... i'm really not satisfyed with sentence or two in the ending of the games.)
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sybillious · Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:43 am Post subject:

one question has been burning my brain up since she first became playable:

is zerase's star rune a true rune? it would fall in the line of sun, (blue) moon, star, etc, so it made me wonder if that's a possibility.
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Vextor · Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:01 pm Post subject:

The star rune is not a true rune. It's a child rune of the Night Rune.

Raww Le Klueze · Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 2:41 pm Post subject:

I'd like them reveal the ones we know about but haven't been shown, Sovereign Rune played a part in Suikoden but we don't even know what it looks like, there's the Eightfold that we know very little about and the Night Rune which we've only seen in sword form.
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siefer · Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:51 pm Post subject:

Camus the Noble · Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:52 pm Post subject:

I really doubt that the "one rune a game" trend will continue, for one simple reason: One of these days, they've got to take us to Harmonia. Hikusaak has been searching for True Runes for four hundred years; I think it's more than likely that the True Earth and True Wind Runes aren't the only ones he has or had embedded in clones. Therefore, when we finally get to see Harmonia from the inside, the odds of new True Runes popping up are not at all bad. Of course, Konami could do another prequel going back to the early days of Harmonia, but since it's likely that the series will end in Harmonia, it doesn't seem like they'd want to make two Harmonia-based games.

mumbay · Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:24 pm Post subject:

Well i think it would be good if they were to bring up the Elemtental True Runes since we did'nt see much from them and they weren't they're own personnal attacks. the only thing we learned was that Jimba and the Flame Champion once had water and fire and then we know the Luc((even though it begins to go missing)) Earth and Lighting((sarasarii and Geddoie))we just know that they had it at one point

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