`It's the little things` - little gems in Suikoden V?

jjrrs · Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 6:51 am Post subject:

sorry if this is mentioned before elsewhere but I just got Sorensen in my party to go do the bridge quest but before I got out the door of the laboratory, when I talked to him he said "I wonder what Lady Saileeds wants with Gizel, I hope they are done talking..." what the hell? I'm remembering that to be Lyon's line back in stormfist before the games, how did it get repeated by him after all this time? after I got out the door there was the Lu scene and after it Sorensen talked about the bridge again. Did anyone else get this? I can't imagine why that line would pop up, is that like an error default line? if so was it said by anyone else?
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Random · Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:19 pm Post subject:

In my first playthrough, when Alenia got lucky at Doraat and after the scene with Miakis, Zerase has a small scene to herself. On my second playthrough, I had Jeane before Doraat and she and Zerase had a 'talk' after the Miakis scene. I thought that was pretty cool.

I also liked the subtle changes that occur if you recruit someone differently. For example: First playthrough I got Babbage and Sorenson after the gear room had been uncovered and I took them to the room on the way back from the bridge. They decided to stay and check it out, then I went and got Lu and found that she was a lousy house keeper.

Second playthough I thought I was being smart and got Sorenson earlier to the bridge. The recruiting changed drastically, as I had to wait until I got the 2nd stage of the castle before I could recruit Babbage - and found that he'd been the one to mess the workshop, not Lu.

I found it funny. ^_^

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VaeVictis · Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:21 pm Post subject:

*SPOILER*

In addition to many of the other things listed I liked a real subtle detail. After you leave your base and Georg tells you personally that he killed the queen and mentions that you probably hate him, and you say "I never felt that way" and you befriend him immediately, the box pops up literally right after his response, a nice little touch.

Also, this is the wrong place for this but I would like to say hello! This is my first post here, I have been coming to SARS forums for a couple years now, but have never posted. I look forward to actually talking with people instead of just reading and observing.

Roc · Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:44 am Post subject:

Fudozukushi · Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:03 pm Post subject:

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Oisin · Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 5:24 pm Post subject:

I like that you went from "recruiting" to "befriending"- whether or not the character actually liked you or not (ie Nakula). It's cute.

I also like that they used music from the early games- it added a touch of familiar. I miss the original composing team.

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Vincent Vingerhut · Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:11 am Post subject:

I didnt see him during the cutscene but when was Millich Oppenheimer mentioned of attending the coronation? References like Shoons friendship with Morgan, Howling Voice Guild being sublimely refered to, Grasslands being mentioned, Island Nations Federation traditions like the En Kuldes Flagship and the Play about Brandeau and Flare, seeing Shun Min, Lorelai and Killey rivalry, the elves and dwares feud in the north, Georg Prime in the spring of his lifetime and many other references are very nice details which made the game more pleasant.

BTW: What makes some people think Lucretia is a lesbian. Are there any clues about it?

Krawnik · Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:59 pm Post subject:

It's suggested that Lelei and Lucretia have a lesbian relationship. Their dialogue occasionally suggests it, and after the game, the two of them disappear together, leaving Cius behind. Although I think it's been stated by the localization team that Lucretia wasn't written as a lesbian, there certainly are inferences throughout the game. And personally, I kind of hope she is, since that would be a neat little personal detail about her.

And am I the only person to mention the bath scenes!? Come on, bringing Lu, Marina, and Jeane into the bath!? Or Viki, Lorelai, and Killey? That is comedy gold just waiting to be mined. I was really glad they were animated this time around, since in SIII it was boring not seeing anybody. SV was wonderful for the baths though. Some characters even took off their hats and stuff. It was fun :P
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Archy · Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:48 pm Post subject:

- The fact that you can sharpen a book. A BOOK. How do you even do that? Encase it with steel?

- Those little references. I liked how you got to learn more about people like Milich, Morgan, etc. Loved them.

- Georg's past before Falena. And how you recruit him.

- That scene with Viki at Ceras was awesome. Cool how they gave Viki her little special music after four titles with her.

- Shigure's resemblance to Yam Koo! First time I saw him I was like, "OMG IS THAT YAM KOO???", then I learned he wasn't. Pretty cool though.

- Retso appearing. I never new he was good like that, from the cook-offs I though he was a jerk.

- The perennial Red-and-blue Knights. Cooler this time that they ride Dragon Horses though.

- Karayans getting another good rep in Lucretia. S2 had Lucia, S3 had a bunch of 'em, cooler with Lucretia overall.

- The fact that the game is SILVERBERG-LESS. Rejoice, my friends! No pansy name called Silverberg as your strategist! Woo-hoo!

- The return of the Maximillian Knights. Fighting ones. Screw Gary and Ema if they ever are one.

- The number 6! You had the 6 Great Generals, Six Mighty Knights of Zexen, and now you have the Six Awesome Queen's Knights! Alenia and Zahak excluded, of course.

- Brief references to the Night Rune. Reminds me of the Big Bear aka Viktor.
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Kobold · Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 4:00 pm Post subject:

Anyway, with regards to the puppet show depicting Flare instead of Lazlo, that's because officially in island nations history, Lazlo was never recorded in. Credit was mainly given to the En Kuldes family and Scholteheim Reinbach 3(Thanks to Mickey's novel for that)

Lazlo didn't exist in the recorded history...

And yeah... Suikoden 5 did posses plenty of nerfs and tid bits that made it wonderful. These small but significant stuff to us Suikoden fans were exactly what have been missing and what many has been craving for. I believe most of them has already been mentioned... All the references to previous games were just a great source of that warm fuzzy feeling in your heart...
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Vincent Vingerhut · Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 4:54 pm Post subject:

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Sophita · Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 9:48 am Post subject:

Viki, Lorelai, and Zweig, actually. Killey's in the silent-type one with either Gunde or Wabon and Zegai.

Unless Viki, Lorelai, and Killey have another one. (WHICH THEY SHOULD, but I kind of doubt they do.) 0.o
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Lunarblade · Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 12:28 am Post subject:

Most of my favorite easter eggs have already been described...

Spoilers, etc.

One that hasn't is that Belcoot can fight Childerich at the duel in Stormfist near the end of the game, instead of the Hero. I really got a kick out of letting Belcoot pwn Childerich in a fair fight.
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