Foreshadowing in Thomas' Chapter 1? (Suikoden3, obviously)

Lunarblade

I was just replaying Thomas' Chapter 1 today, and I went through with the Thomas quest (to rescue the young boy also named Thomas). It got me to thinking, though...could the younger Thomas show up again in the Suikoden series, as a Star of Destiny?

First, we learn his name. We really wouldn't have to know, though...he's supposedly just an NPC. We don't learn his mother's name. I'm also PRETTY sure his character model is unique (I don't remember seeing him in other towns, but I may be wrong). Finally, when he's rescued, his mother says he should grow up to be just like the other Thomas (brave, strong, etc). Keep in mind also that the quest has nothing to do with the story, and just seems to be thrown in there. (The again, one could say that for both of Thomas' chapters...)

I know I'm most likely wrong, but I think it'd be pretty neat to see the younger Thomas return in a later Suikoden game, don't you?
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Elc · Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 4:01 pm Post subject:

That's got possibilities, for sure. But I should also point out that Ko in Suikoden II also had a unique character model, but he was just there as someone who viewed Riou as his idol as well as to tip you off to the McDohl side-quest.

However, since Lucia was an enemy character in Suikoden II and became a Star of Destiny in Suikoden III, it opens the possibilities for the younger Thomas to become as Star as well. We've already had two Stars share a name (Hugo) but I think it all comes down to when and where subsequent Suikodens take place. I can't really see the younger Thomas showing up as a Star of Destiny in a game based in Falena, but it wouldn't be unreasonable in a game featuring the Nameless Lands or Harmonia.
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Marshmallow · Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 4:16 pm Post subject:

In addition to the two Hugos, there were also two Gordons and two Vikis.

adrich · Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 4:40 pm Post subject:

I think the other Thomas was mostly just included to make a point of the fact that two different characters can, indeed, have the same name.

I doubt his importance is any more than that or that he will ever return because he was never given a portrait.

Eriatarka · Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 4:46 pm Post subject:

yeah, even the most likely candidate of II to return that didnt was Pilika...so I doubt you'll see Thomas again

zeal · Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 6:09 pm Post subject:

well Bechum...or whatever didn't have a portrait and ended up in suikoden 3. i personally would like to see some sub-characters that you've met in pervious suikodens to show up in future suikodens. i think it would add alittle more "flavor" to the game.
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Noot · Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 4:46 am Post subject:

There are several runemasters with names, or people who say "one day I will be a great military strategist" like in Drakemouth village in SII. Going off of what zeal said, I think it would be a nice touch to bring some of these NPCs back in a future game just so when you replay the older Suikodens you could say "HOLY SHMOLY!!!!!!!!!!" ya know? :)
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Lunarblade · Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:26 pm Post subject:

Yeah, who knows. Like I said, it's probably unlikely, but it could happen.

Notice, also, that the younger Thomas lives in Nor village, which is not seen in the game. Maybe it's farther to the north? That'd put him at the Outlands, which haven't been featured yet.

But who knows? I just think it'd be cool for him to show up in another game.
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Gwendal · Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 6:56 pm Post subject:

Maybe it was put in to reinforce the "Thomas is an ordinary boy" theme...

And IIRC, Thomas did live in the Outlands for most of his life.
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Filipe · Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 7:45 pm Post subject:

I agree with Gwendal on the fact that it may have been nothing more than to show that even though Thomas is this grand star of destiny for the game he is very much normal like anyone else. A self made hero so to speak that is as common as the next guy he just so happens to have a large part in the game for at least a little bit. They could have done it more with the other characters in the game but im sure they were too busy using them to build the overall game storyline. Being that Thomas is not one of the possible fire bearers I dont think(dunno it's been awhile since I played through the game) they could afford to show another side to him.
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Eggith Cyrene · Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 9:32 pm Post subject:

Lilly was in suiko 2 and she turns out to be a SOD in 3. Shes a funn charector too(and hott as well)
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Lunarblade · Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 10:26 pm Post subject:

Thomas couldn't be a flame champion.
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Njord · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 1:32 pm Post subject:

I don't really believe that we will be seeing the younger Thomas in any of the upcoming Suikoden games because as I saw it he didn't give any kind of significant to the game when he made an appearance, all he did is just thank our Thomas for rescuing him from the boar.

That's why I don't really believe that it will happen but who knows I might be wrong and it do happen.

In the past, we saw that Konami gave a chance for an insignificant character like Ace to make an appearance in Suikoden as an important character who do have some kind of a role in the game even when he wasn't known in Suikoden 2.

Therefore, there might be a chance to see the younger Thomas or any other NPC in the coming Suikoden games but I wouldn't expect it to happen because we yet didn't see a lot of other characters who did have more impact in the story of the Suikoden games than younger Thomas did.

Anyway, we only have to wait and see if any of them do make an appearance in the following Suikoden games. :)
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Tonberry · Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 1:08 am Post subject:

I highly doubt that Thomas will reappear. It just doesn't seem likely. He was very unimportant to the story. The star Thomas has a higher chance of returning I think. The little Thomas boy has about the same chance of returning as the mantor trainer NPC named Rick that no one probably remembers.

Scarlet Assassin · Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 5:14 am Post subject:

Rick is the Mantor trained that gets injured, the one that Franz finds.
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