World Map presented in History of Suikoden dvd

John Layfield · Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:00 am Post subject:

Have we all forgotten that such things as continental drift takes hundreds of millions of years and that the only source of the age of the Suikoden world is that of Luc who states it as a mere one thousand years?

Of course, if some sort of magic is being implied then may I introduce a theory of similar worth in terms of evidence?

I call it the 'A GIANT BLOCK OF CHEESE BURPED OUT THE SUIKODEN WORLD ONTO A PLATE OF GRISTLE' theory.
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TruePerception · Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:45 pm Post subject:

Alkazar, isn't it possible that these islands aren't even connected to the tectonic plates (or atleast some of them), but that they are fragments of land masses broken off, which merely float on the water. This would allow them to drift faster than land masses connected to the tectonic plates because they wouldn't have an anchor to keep them in place, thus a natural disaster, a la earthquake or volcano, could significantly (relatively speaking) shift the location of the island in comparison with other land masses. I've never been good with geography, but htis seems to make sense to me.
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John Layfield · Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:49 pm Post subject:

TruePerception · Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:54 pm Post subject:

Not necessarily, only dense objects sink, and though it would seem an island would automatically be dense, the presense of caves, natural or manmade, and of manmade structures would add to the size more than they would they the weight, thus less mass. Plus we don't know what the soil's composition i, so can't decide on density really, but say the islands are to heavy to float, they could be leaning on the plate itself (or atleast the ocean bottom), heavy enough to stay in place under normal circumstances, but such a natural disaster could still push them out of "place".
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John Layfield · Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:00 pm Post subject:

Any such island would have to suffer from such a lack of density that any human habitation would be practically impossible or at the very least unsustainable past a certain architectural level.

However, if the islands were indeed too heavy and were merely leaning on the plate, then they didn't drift anywhere anyway so the point is moot.
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TruePerception · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:46 pm Post subject:

I went into more detail in the other half of this split topic, and don't feel like reiterating right now, but an object sitting on another object can shift in comparison to the other object if the other object were to move (expecially if violently), which tectonic plates, by their very nature, move constantly, and since said islands may not have anchors, but just be sufficiently heavy to sit in place and sufficiently large for part of the island to sit above water, it would seem very possible that such an island could exist, though such a phenomenon would be rare (such as existing in only one part of the world). I'm not saying that konami actually thought this through and switched the locations, but it would be a plausible way to explain such a mistake and could end up being so in future (post-III hopefully) Suikodens to fix such a botch.
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ShuTheLord · Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:17 pm Post subject:

Wow a world map! What is this dvd you all speak of? Probably only in japan right? I was wondering if it's not too much to ask someone could get that map translated possibly? If I knew japanese I'd do it.. but sadly :P
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John Layfield · Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:22 pm Post subject:

Shu, you are so behind the times. :P

http://www.theirstar.com/?pp=atlas_map.html
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ShuTheLord · Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:24 pm Post subject:

I am.. my apologies. Getting back into the groove takes time you know!
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Vextor · Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:33 pm Post subject:

Hey, welcome back ShuTheLord! I'm sure Highland's mighty happy to have ye back.

AA · Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:30 pm Post subject:

Meh, he's just cluttering up the place making it look untidy :P

ShuTheLord · Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:49 pm Post subject:

Thanks for the welcome SARS! Eh I dunno how happy they are... they havent made it worth my while yet *cough name a rank after me cough*
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Stampede · Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:57 am Post subject:

Leon Silverberg · Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:28 pm Post subject:

I don't remember his lines, but i think he said that there is a continent in the west and that it may be even more interesting to get a job there..

It has to be the western continent..

hmm Zelant Kingdom is beyond the Gaien Dukedom? That would mean that it is the nearest country to the western continent..hmm..and i thought zelant would be on falena..

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