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Camus the Noble

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 6:45 pm    Post subject: L'Renouille. Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

The name of the Highland capital has always baffled me. First of all, it's clearly French in spelling, but has no meaning whatsoever in that language. But, you know, people make up names for video games, so that's permissible.

More oddly, it's blatantly grammatically incorrect. The article "L'" (that's an apostrophe, in case you can't tell it apart from the quotation marks) means "the," and is used before nouns that start with vowel sounds, as in "l'escargot" (the snail).

"Renouille," however starts with an "r," which is obviously not a vowel. The only logical pronunciation is to make the leading "r" silent, which still makes no sense. In French, a silent "r" at the start of the word is bizarre.

So, does anyone know what the L'Renouille spelling is all about? Is it just another result of the horrible Suikoden II translation?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

It's probably bad translation. Konami is good at that. :mrgreen:

I always said Le Renouille. And renouille sounds very close to grenouille, which means frog. So maybe it's supposed to be Le Grenouille. :D
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Actually, wouldn't it be La Grenouille?

And a frog doesn't really seem fitting to name a capital city after. What were those Highlanders thinking?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

maybe they are very amphbious?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

You're going to sit their with a serious face and tell me that that name is any stranger than North Window? I defy you sir, Suikoden 2 was filled with weird names, and I always found the highland Capital to be one of the more believable locale names. Honestly would you really live in a place called Toto village? I'd never be able to respect myself and I'd never send my parents mail either because I know they'd be embarrassed the get mail from their son in "Toto village"

On another note, Duck village? Could you guys be a bit more creative please.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I think Camus just wants to confirm if anyone knows of a translation for it to see if there was supposed to be an actual name.

You're best of asking someone like iscalio for the French meaning (if there is one at all as you've said) or Sars to ask if it was called something different in the Japanese version.

If it is supposed to be "The Frog" then I'd shudder at that. I can understand North/South Window - however odd the name Window is. But having a Kingdom name their capital after a frog is clearly stupid considering (as far as I know) there is no mention of a frog in any of Highland's history or culture.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

this is it! i get it now! former king highland is a puppy! the succesor a duck! maybe the ancestor was a frog???? :shock:

we have solve the problem! :|

on a serious note: why is north and south window weird for you? and i've always thought L'Renouille is a great name for a city of highland.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

rane wrote:
L'Renouille is a great name for a city of highland.


The problem with the name L'Renouille is that it doesn't make sense. The L - apostrophe - R means that you are supposed to pronounce the "r" in the same syllable as the "l," as you would with the "a" in "La."
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

It might not make sense in French but it obviously does in Highlanderianese. :P
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Damn, I forgot about that. I think a rough translation in ancient Highlanderianese is, hmm, you'll have to stay with me on this as I have to cross translate to understand it fully but I believe it says...

"Fluffy trumps Beaky"

We can only imagine what those old Highlanders were meaning.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Well whatever it was you forgot that in ancient Highlandesse you have to read it backwards.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Lots of names have no meaning, so that's my guess. Few video game locations have "normal" names so there's no reason to believe that Suikoden is any different. And let's not ascend into a Highland conversation. (AA is obviously right anyway)
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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Fluffy does indeed trump beaky.

As far as the name goes, I doubt that translators had anything in mind for a frog, they probably just thought it sounded cool and that if anyone translated it, they'd think it was funny that they put it in.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Yes i get it Camus the Noble maybe it's of those crazy higland dialects.

about reading it backwards it would be read ykaeb spmurt yffulF. hehe! :D
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Here in the Philippines, we also have places named after some weird things:

I've listed them together with the English literal meaning

ex:

Biak-na-Bato - Split Rock

Sapang Bato - Creek of Rock

Sapang Palay - Creek of Rice

Malanggam - Full of ants

Maahas - Full of snakes!

Pulang Lupa - Red Soil

Caingin - Forest Burning

Susong Dalaga - Virgin's Breast!!!

So I dont really think North and South Window are weird names...
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