Abducted Governors and Ransoms

[Aurelien]

While yes that potch is primarily used to buy soldiers, there is still a reason now to not convert potch to soldiers in case you need to change regiment type or upgrade to advanced unit. Two upgrades alone would cost you more than a million potch, something that is doable but not *that* easy to do if you have limited time. Hence, there is still a need to strategize and decide whether you want to convert all your potch or save some.

Paying ransom in potch only is another reason that we'd need to consider now whether we want to conver the potch to soldiers or not. So basically we need to plan.

If we want to have a soldier-to-potch conversion, I think the only way to make that work is to have a different ratio than potch-to-soldier converstion. If 100 potch could buy 1 soldiers, maybe it should be 5 soldiers for 100 potch. So that a nation do have an option to convert their soldiers to potch if they need the extra cash (maybe they're short a bit on upgrade cost or paying ransom or whatnot), but it would come at a cost so that they're 'punished' for taking the wrong decision by not anticipating that they'd need the potch for such thing beforehand.

Or in comparison to real life, if we buy something for 10 dollars, we can theoritically sell them as used item, but it'd no longer worth the same 10 dollars, it'd most likely worth less than that. (Of course there are items that increases in value as it grows older, but we're just talking in general idea that usually used item would worth less than brand new ones)
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[Decado]

Is slavery legal in the City States? :)

If a nation is strapped for cash then maybe you could negotiate selling your soldiers to another nation for a slightly discounted rate. That way you get the potch you need and the other nation gets some discounted soldiers.

Plus it's legal.
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[Camus the Noble]

This is slightly off topic, but is a nation able to both raid and attack the same region in the same phase? I would think not, but I just wanted to be sure.

[Username]

Yes, Kooluk has done this already. An invasion and Raids are considered two different attacks.
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[Acheron]

I may have missed this and no one mentioned it when discussing whether or not 3PP was just for what raiding garners. When you raid you have the chance of taking an enemy nations items, as in, things they found during an exploration. Like that scroll Grasslands found once would be able to be stolen if not used yet.

I take it that the more soldiers you send for a raid the better the results, as is the case with exploration?

Does it make a difference what region you raid? EX: Grasslands raids Zexen at Yaza, vs, Grasslands raids Zexen at Vinay del Zexay. Would raiding the region with more cultural richness garner better spoils? I see parallels in the way raids and explorations are structured(3PP, same forum, brief, in my head their filed near each other) and in exploration, location makes a difference in what you get.

I think 3PP is a good price because it also attacks the stats of a region, which can make it much easier to conquer in the long run. 3PP is just right, and it sounds cool with the repeating vowel sounds.

[fuji]

Any hints on what the new things to spend potch on are? Nations have plenty of things to buy with potch, but the average Archer unit (such as myself) has nothing.... now if I could buy my army some new tights, that'd be great. Some of my soldiers have worn out the crotch of their tights during their last campaign...

After looking over the current raids, I can see that a successful raid does net a fair bit of potch. So I'll agree that it's evened out.
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[Aurelien]

[Axiose]

The region you raid would depend on the rewards you get. You wouldn't raid the Badlands and steal yourself 1,000,000 potch. You'd get something much better for raiding Crystal Valley for example.
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[Calupict]

Now I wondering how to calculate the civilians murder. Seems relate with the soldier number.
I have murder about 8072 civilians :twisted:

[Justice Johnny]

Uh... Calupict, I thought you said you were an innocent person?

You really have been hanging out with Celes too much. :?

Yeah, the amount of potch pillaged seems to depend on the number of soldiers. Either that or the leadership of the regiment leader. Captain Hero's regiment is a little less than half of mine, and he also got a little less than half the amount of potch than I did.
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[Calupict]

Well I AM Innocently mischief.
I hide my dangerous side behind innocent outfit. Femme Fatale.

Ah yeah how we know that the governor is abducted or not. Because if I'm not wrong, Ice didn't captured at raid. Do the raider force influence that?

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[Hawk Thanatos]

[Exile]

I remember thinking a change like this was going to be included a couple of phases back why, oh, why did I not patent the idea then?

Nevermind, fun stuff.

I would quite like the possibility of capturing one of the defenders rather than just the governor, there's no guarantee the governor will be present so it sort of wouldn't make sense if he was captured in that regard and also if the captured unit was randomised it might be possible to nab a mercenary and force them to work for you for a while. Obviously a mercenary wouldn't have the same purchasing power as a nation so they should probably have a different method of release if that was the case but it's just a thought anyway.
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