Grounds for another Debate:

[Zero]

http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/15/wmd-irrelevant/

So what do you think about Bush's open admitance?
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"I came, I saw, I conquered."

Julious Cezar

[sybillious]

is this some pathetic attempt to come clean? if so, it's too little, too late; i'm sure this news comforts the families of those who've died for this lie.
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prinny...DOOD!

gotta gotta get a...SPICE WEASEL!

to paraphrase my fellow mod, parallax:
I hate my job with the passionately burning intensity of a thousand fiery suns.

[Loran Cehack]

This is really more of an example of how he never admits he is wrong no matter how bad things blow up in his face. I really hate people like that.
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[Zero]

In all honesty, I see this as Bush getting his laugh back on America a bit. In all honesty I don't think the guy is near as dumb as he's made out to be, and ultimately I think everyone knew that there was another secret vendetta lurking in the shadows.
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"I came, I saw, I conquered."

Julious Cezar

[Loran Cehack]

Truth be told I think Cheney is the one who really holds the power and the reason things went down the way they did was fear over a peak oil situation.
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[Zero]

The only reason why I don't believe that so much is because Bush senior still has some close connections to the CIA and whatnot. You know that he is just as educated as if father if for no other reason that he undoubtibly had access to more information than most people like you or me.

Like I said, Bush is way more intelligent than most people give him credit for and I think that perhaps with everything surfacing now something's going to be uncovered because I highly doubt that oil is the only reason all of this happened. If it was as simple as that then there's no doubt in my mind that the progress would have been ten fold, not to mention we wouldn't be paying three dollars for gas.
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"I came, I saw, I conquered."

Julious Cezar

[Sophita]

Interesting.

Wonder if he'll be impeached - he did lie to America.

(I kind of doubt it, though. Republican control in all three arms of government, plus the fact that most people would rather see Bush in power than Cheney*...)

*Seriously, is there a less charismatic man in the world?
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[Loran Cehack]

[eXistence of Fly]

It was speculated and somewhat proven long before he came clean that the invasion of Iraq was for reasons other then wmds. Hence why in the long run the reasons changed from Iraq harbouring terrorists (a same accusation levelled at Pakistan, just after the coalition mopped up with Afghanistan) to stopping a madman with wmds (later found out oops couldnt find any) to deposing a brutal dictator who tortured his nation (a proven fact but not enough to realy legitimise a full scale shalacking)

Nothing bar the Democrats jumping on this at the next elections will ultimately result from this, and at least Bush wasnt the only one to actually stay the course or else this would be much more of a bigger deal then it is. (Because then he would have had actual opposition in the UN which would have resulted in a further delayed backing or none at all. Even if i do think theyre just a mockery)

Thats my view from an outsider, so i know im bound to be wrong on some accounts but you should be able to get my point.
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[Goldy]

Bush just wanted a War just like his daddy did.

He picked a soft target in Iraq. I bet he will go nowhere near Iran or North Korea. Either country would be more than a match for the US and they do (well at least North Korea) have WMD's and would not be afraid to use them.

[eXistence of Fly]

Actually theres been tensions in Iran with the USA, as Iran asked the USA for spare parts fore their commercial planes, then when the USA said 'uhhh nah' and there was a plane crash the Iranian govt went straight for the jugular blaming it on the USA for failing to sell spare parts that wernt even being used and are outdated.

If you read sections of this article

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=7204

You'll find that during the article it states

[Camus the Noble]

Just another thread in the web of lies... trying to make people believe that we invaded not because Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, but because we were freeing the Iraqi people. As we now know, that goal worked out wonderfully, and we were hailed as liberators, creating a stable and independent democratic government. [end sarcasm]

[sybillious]

if freeing iraq and liberation of people from strife and persecution are such a concern, then why hasn't the war torn areas of africa seen us help?

no advantage for us, that's why. economically, there's nothing to exploit; the rich factions that influence our government can't profit, so nothing is happen.

so much for the humanitarian side of the coin.
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prinny...DOOD!

gotta gotta get a...SPICE WEASEL!

to paraphrase my fellow mod, parallax:
I hate my job with the passionately burning intensity of a thousand fiery suns.

[Ley]

To be honest it doesn't matter what Bush does or says now about what happened to get American soldiers into Iraq. It's happened, and nothing anyone is capable of doing can change the past. There is no real point complaining about the the actions of the Goverment now, because they're are bigger problems to worry about now.

I've been against this war from the start, but when a simpleton has power there is no shortage of people willing to take advantage of him, and create problems. For those of you who argue Bush isn't an idiot either he is a simpleton or he is a really good actor. It's no secret I dislike Bush, so I will just stick to insulting him than actually analysing his failures, because then I'll have to start comparing him people like Clinton, who really wasn't much better, though was a much clever person.

If you take the Marxist Argument that Capitalist Countries need war to survive then wouldn't you have to accept that Bush is doing your country a world of good, so really, he didn't need the weapons of mass destruction that he says are irrelevant, as he's thinking of the good of the nation.

Now where was I going again before I got side tracked, oh yes, this comment by Bush is as irrelevant as the Weapons of mass Destruction that don't exist.
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Can anyone tell I'm bored?

[Ninjar]

Yes, well I suppose that we have ourselves to blame whether we voted for the idiot or not. To allow America to progress to a point where it would elect such a person is pure idiocy. Although we aren't to blame as much as those who actually voted him in.